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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7360076
09/20/21 02:00 PM
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"Expensive trend: People committing crimes to get free jail health care " Fox News


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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: Gary Benson] #7360078
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Originally Posted by Dirt
[quote=Blaine County]Two of the Tman disability fraud cases on the same page!



I almost feel obligated to make a donation to the National Brotherhood of Lawyers. Anybody have an address?


Make donations to the Democratic Party, all the same!


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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: Oh Snap] #7360205
09/20/21 04:37 PM
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To me this thread is a good example of why many don't like data or facts as we can choose to surmise, generalize and omit etc. aspects of the numbers that best fit our desired outcome or intention. There will be thousands and thousands of articles etc. drafted post census as there always are. We take data and numbers and add politics to that and we create ways to find fault in most if not all that are not in sync with our thoughts.

If we would assume that say almost all males under 18 would not be recorded as working, all men over 70 and add in disabled 1/3rd is a very realistic number imo. Sure there are outliers in everything but demographically to me that percentage is realistic and will get higher if we drag on getting the economy up and running faster and 1-2 million baby boomer males retire every year.

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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7360218
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My contribution to the post is I don’t even consider those like teenagers and retirees or obviously truly disabled.What I see around me is 21-50 somethings that will not strike a lick at a snake except maybe cash on the side. They don’t want to jeopardize the food stamps, additional cash deposited into the bank at 1201 am on the first of every month, HUD paying their rent, another government agency providing “ assistance” on their heat and electric bill and all the breadwinners in the household, the kids, getting free braces.

Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7360222
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Boco since I pay my taxes maybe the feds will pay for the 15k new sepctic system I'm having put in, and that 7 k for water meter and lines I just ran for the high tunnel and grazing. But In stead they will just make me pay more property tax. I drive on county roads all my property tax, 7%sales tax and state income tax, on top of license plates and other fees. I pay for my kids school not the government. And I pay for my families health care . People here pay for their trash pick up its not a government services either.

About 50% of my income goes out in some form of tax I do not benefit from or agree with. Government spending has been out of control mist of my life and getting worse.

Now if my taxes were about 7%-10% total and limited to roads, the military and them paying the electric and water bills of their offices I would mind paying taxes as much.

Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7360234
09/20/21 05:25 PM
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You folks gotta come to grips with the fact that it is all a ponzi scheme.....lotsa people are paid way too much, the welfare folks, all the entitlements, government workers who do nothing and the list is endless.......so they can keep the scheme going. shovel $ to people who shovel it into the scheme. Congress exempts itself from laws...votes in their benefits/salary/nicities.....it is all a scam. The biggest $ budget in the world is being skimmed by a bunch of thieves. Got the worst of them in charge right now and that won't change anytime soon...2022 they will pick up more seats.


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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: Steven 49er] #7360274
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
The lawyers didn't make you sign up.


They offered! And no employer wants an employee that's taking seizure meds! They might get sued by a lawyer!


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7360379
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I know several people who take seizure meds that are gainfully employed. My kid is one of them.

Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: Steven 49er] #7360381
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
I know several people who take seizure meds that are gainfully employed. My kid is one of them.


Absolutely correct.


You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training.

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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7360383
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I cannot turn away an applicant because of Pre or current health conditions. I can due to lack of experience.

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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7360386
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Only question I can ask pertaining to health is if they are able to drive a vehicle or operate machinery. If it is a requirement for the position.



You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training.

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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7360425
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Middle of winter, sitting in a tiny life raft in the ocean , 100 mph winds and 5 guys. After 2 hours a helicopter shows up and one says to another “ so you gonna start paying your taxes now,Richie ?”

Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: DelawareRob] #7360445
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Originally Posted by DelawareRob
Only question I can ask pertaining to health is if they are able to drive a vehicle or operate machinery. If it is a requirement for the position.


Absolutely capable..until there's an accident and a lawyer shows up to sue!


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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7360448
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After 21 years I had earned a position in management. Sorry, not starting over at 7.50 an hour. Thank lawyer's! I'm 65 now...good to go.


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: 3 Fingers] #7360449
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Originally Posted by 3 Fingers
Middle of winter, sitting in a tiny life raft in the ocean , 100 mph winds and 5 guys. After 2 hours a helicopter shows up and one says to another “ so you gonna start paying your taxes now,Richie ?”


Or the guys that climb mountains or go into the bush unprepared!


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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7360668
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Not sure how anyone thinks paying your hard earned money into a government that operates like the one we have is a good idea.

Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7360675
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A problem here is workers seem to claim an injury in the fall so they can ride workmans compensation for the winter. I had one employee ride WC for years even took my insurance company to the state Supreme Court. I was sure glad I had insurance! His injury was his own fault didn’t follow my instructions but I still paid in higher premiums.


I know a few here who take construction jobs so they can draw unemployment all winter. Union guys are exempted from looking for work (more corruption) but nonunion are required to. If offered a job they are supposed to lose their unemployment. This applies even if the first job will be open again in the spring. Even with all the "we are hiring" signs none of them find a job. I know a couple that draw unemployment to trap.

I have lost count of how many winters I have trapped for most or all trapping season. I take a leave of absence. I have a job now where I could still draw a lot of weeks in winter but I do not.

So I am wondering how many on here are voluntarily drawing unemployment to trap instead of working. Cause here where I live , healthy people not working is voluntary.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7360683
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At today's fur prices a trapper needs a subsidy to keep trapping. Like many other occupations...I guess we can call it a stimulus check.

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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7360684
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Do you know why sharks don't attack lawyers? (Professional courtesy)


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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7360686
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Biden announced yesterday a 10 fold increase in refugees for 2022. Replacement workers are being ushered in as fast as possible.

That Dairy Queen with only drive thru hours will be open for indoor dining soon.


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