Instinctive shooting
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I know there's some on here that do it. Whether it be gun, bow, slingshot or bb gun I don't think it would make much difference? How did you learn it? Is there a book or video on it, or just totally self taught?
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Re: Instinctive shooting
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When we were 12 a cousin and me got fiberglass recurve bows and a half dozen arrows each. Our folks didn’t know anything about archery. No nock on the string even. My uncle did show us how to use three fingers instead of pinch the arrow. We shot everything. Spent our meager funds on more arrows at Kmart as we went through them pretty steady. Only target stops we had were hay bales. We shot a lot at rabbits and magpies.
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When we were 12 a cousin and me got fiberglass recurve bows and a half dozen arrows each. Our folks didn’t know anything about archery. No nock on the string even. My uncle did show us how to use three fingers instead of pinch the arrow. We shot everything. Spent our meager funds on more arrows at Kmart as we went through them pretty steady. Only target stops we had were hay bales. We shot a lot at rabbits and magpies. Well, I did the same growing up. But I aimed by looking down the arrow. I understand instinctive is just pulling up and shooting while looking at the target, not down the arrow, right?
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Re: Instinctive shooting
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I've made some pretty amazing shots doing "snapshooting" or just instinctively... No idea how. It just comes down to doing it. Although it seems like every one of those shots was made at something with a pulse... Maybe there's some leftover primordial instinct from the times when it meant eating or not eating.
I'm sure practicing to the point of being absolutely comfortable with the weapon has something to do with it.
Jerry Miculek would probably be the guy to ask... Or Tom Knapp if he was still with us
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lotsa perfect practice, if were talking handgun your grip is king....
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Re: Instinctive shooting
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Lots and lots of shooting with the same gun.Not at a range or target shooting.just offhand shooting.Like hunting with a catapult.The indian kids would shoot sparrows flying with their catapults they carry them 24/7 and grow up to be crack shot goose hunters with both rifles or shotguns.
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Choose a means of which you want to become your forte. Then become disciplined in "TPR" . . . Time, PRACTICE, and Repetition. . . . and PRACTICE! :-)
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Practice practice practice and then do some more, the younger you start the quicker you pick it up
My kids seemed to acquire the skill as kids by osmosis and just absorb the skill, me I had to work at it, first with bow then Slingshot then pistol, each was easier then the first
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You guys sound like a bunch of Afghans shooting like that.
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I didn’t look down the arrow. Still dont. Just point and shoot like with a sling shot. I use sights on gun
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Hello JP-where you been - banned? Boco my man! You really think I got banned? Lol
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Aim small, miss small. A fella by the name of G. Fred Asbell has a book on Instinctive Archery that is very good. Also, check out Byron Ferguson's video's and books.
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Hello JP-where you been - banned? Boco my man! You really think I got banned? Lol Bud, Bic, and Jurassic. Guess I've mastered how to instinctively summon missing Tman members, at least, lol.
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Instinctive shooting i believe gets a misnomer. Yes there is instinct to a degree, but that is the end result of practice, not the beginning. So therefore, you need to practice a ton, trying different methods until you pick one and perfect it.
With single projectile firearms it never really is takin as far as it could go. I and everyone i ever shot with never shot instinctive pistol at more than 10 yds. Theres sights. If it has to be quick and you make it happen. But how often do you shoot a gun with front and rear sights and not use them. Instinctive here is more point and shoot.
Shotgun is the cross over and there is plenty of error with your given pattern. With this shooting i feel it falls in the realm of split vision. The way i was told/taught by a renowned bowyer/archer is 98% of your vision is peripheral, the 2% is aiming. How many look at their bead on a passing duck. I dont even know why they are there. Though i like mine. I think
The trad bow is the hardest to grasp. Along with all the styles like gap, fixed crawl etc (which arent instinctive) shooting a stick bow instinctively is hard. Again you have the 98 and 2 happening. The 2 is much more important here because it one projectile, not a load of 3” 3s. So the object is to focus on the target aka pick a spot, but not reference anything in particular. I do a drill that i heard of from a guy named Casto? Whatever his name, the drill is to draw and “aim” point the arrow at the target. You do not loose the arrow. The drill forces you to “aim” ( i hate saying that as an instinctive shooter) so you ingrain the sight picture and peripheral cues to hit the same spot regularly. With archery in general, with all bows, target panic is real and worse without trigger devises.
Joel turner talks at length about this. With firearms you increase trigger tension until the sear breaks. Very easy to have good shots with follow thru. When shooting with your fingers it hard to separate your mechanoreceptors. A fluid release has to be somewhat of a surprise, but try doing that. Hold a rock in your hand and let go of it without you telling yourself to let go of it. Its hard. Same with the string. And the mind starts to shortcut processes when it comes time to let go. Then creeps in target panic. The main principle to avoid snap shooting, which is not as accurate as coming to a anchor and being comfortable there with a clean release is to separate the mind and body. The short of this is having an internal dialogue walking thru the steps. This way you fight the urge for your mind to run the short cut program, and let your mind run the cycle. Its deep. Sometimes you shoot good, other times not.
My father in law told me a story. Something to the degree of a golfer shooting a wonderful round while his budies jeered of how lucky he was. He said that he just seemed to be getting luckier the more he practiced…
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Focus. Total focus on the target and your natural hand-eye coordination does the rest.
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