Re: A tax on cow farts
[Re: warrior]
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09/28/21 09:13 PM
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Chancey
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If the House passes the 3.5+ trillion bill, then it will be a game changer for the green energy companies. That amount of money will make sure that Wallstreet takes notice, and I fear it will not be in the working man's best interest.
While I along with everyone here, believe in sound stewardship of our natural resources, I think this bill (if passed), may put us over the edge.
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Re: A tax on cow farts
[Re: bblwi]
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09/28/21 09:15 PM
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Chancey
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Will never be that high as the value of the milk is not that high and no cows are not worth anywhere near $6,500 for commercial production cows. Also the bulk of the methane comes through the mouth as the cow coughs up the cud and chews it up after it has been in the rumen for some time to ferment. So this is not about farts at all, and very unlikely to be a high tax even if there ever is a tax. On the bright side for dairy cows maybe they can sell methane reduction credits if they control more methane release. We are already seeing some revenue streams from manure that are almost as profitable as the profit from milk. The only real big hitch to that for farmers is that those profits are for the really large scale operations which if the trend continues many what we call larger farms. 500-2,000 cows will not be able to compete.
Bryce This is exactly the plan IMO. The goal is to get totally rid of small and medium sized farmers and ranchers.
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Re: A tax on cow farts
[Re: Chancey]
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09/28/21 09:37 PM
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bblwi
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Yes, I grew up surrounded by 20-50 cow dairy farms and there were almost 150,000 in WI when I was in HS. Today WI has less then 8,000 dairy farms. We all worship capitalism until it crushes us. If we are going to maintain a rural presence with a lot of smaller operations then there will need to be even higher subsidies for those families to stay farming. When we subsidize, bushels, tons, bales, acres and per head and not people we subsidize those that produce the most or own the most. This is not new, the migration from the farm to the suburban and urban areas started after WW1 and really gained speed after WW11. Now days with the new technology and much more money available for those with assets it continues.
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Re: A tax on cow farts
[Re: warrior]
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09/28/21 10:08 PM
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danny clifton
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How about making it legal to sell whatever you you produce, to anybody who wants to buy it, for whatever price you can agree on? To much government is how we got here.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: A tax on cow farts
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09/28/21 10:11 PM
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How about making it legal to sell whatever you you produce, to anybody who wants to buy it, for whatever price you can agree on? To much government is how we got here. Makes to much sense and doesn't allow govt to dip their beak.
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Re: A tax on cow farts
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How about making it legal to sell whatever you you produce, to anybody who wants to buy it, for whatever price you can agree on? To much government is how we got here. That is exactly right, the big corporate farms got bigger because of the subsidies and government interventions. Croney capitalism should be confused with free market capitalism.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: A tax on cow farts
[Re: Redknot]
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09/29/21 10:59 AM
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Why don't we just save the fuel that trucks need to bring the milk, meat, and vegetables to big cities. City dwellers can grow all the food they need on their roof-tops... Thats the best idea yet
Let's go Brandon
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Re: A tax on cow farts
[Re: warrior]
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09/29/21 12:33 PM
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Is having to pay $100 per coyote and $50 per raccoon in this legislation? You will need to pay to play.
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Re: A tax on cow farts
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09/29/21 01:28 PM
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Is having to pay $100 per coyote and $50 per raccoon in this legislation? You will need to pay to play. You're talking about predator control bounty I do pray!?
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: A tax on cow farts
[Re: warrior]
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09/29/21 02:47 PM
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https://mullin.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=4949In an attempt to eliminate fossil fuels, this legislation would impose a “fee” on all methane emissions, including in our agriculture industry. We all know that a fee is just a tax and that consumers are the ones who will pay for it. The tax is estimated to cost $6,500 per dairy cow, $2,600 per head of cattle, and $500 per swine each year. That is more than what the animals are worth, it’ll run ranchers out of business. If only we could find a way to bottle these methane emissions, think of all the money we could save each year by replacing fossil fuels. Duh. Are other countries planning to eliminate all fossil fuels or are we the only one stupid enough to believe we can make it happen?
I don't care how nice the hand soap smells, you should never walk out of the restroom sniffing your fingers.
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Re: A tax on cow farts
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09/29/21 02:59 PM
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Is having to pay $100 per coyote and $50 per raccoon in this legislation? You will need to pay to play. You're talking about predator control bounty I do pray!? As backwards as these clowns are, I figured us trappers would have to start paying to trap any old time.
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Re: A tax on cow farts
[Re: warrior]
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09/29/21 03:10 PM
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This is how they figure the 3.5 trillion spending bill will be free, regulation fees! When the costs are passed on to us, we'll pay $10 for a gallon of milk, $8 a gallon for gas, $29 a pound for chuck steak... they don't consider this inflation also, just the cost of having them saving the planet???
Let's go Brandon!
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Re: A tax on cow farts
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09/29/21 05:50 PM
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Mark June
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Saving the planet from farting mammals will cost endless moola. Do gnats pass gas? There are an awful lot of them and I wish they'd pass away.
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Re: A tax on cow farts
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09/30/21 07:49 AM
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Why do we just save the fuel that trucks need to bring the milk, meat, and vegetables to big cities. City dwellers can grow all the food they need on their roof-tops... There go the zoos. lol Oh no they'll be exempt
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