No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers *** No Politics
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting~The Pen and Quill

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Joe Goodman Prints
Please support Joe Goodman because he supports us with donations

Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit #7367360
09/29/21 12:41 PM
09/29/21 12:41 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 14,627
Sandhills Nebraska
G
Gary Benson Offline OP
trapper
Gary Benson  Offline OP
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 14,627
Sandhills Nebraska
Maybe this one will get whacked too. Next thing food companies will get sued for obesity.
https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/a...es-75M-settlement-with-drug-16494507.php


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit [Re: Gary Benson] #7367365
09/29/21 12:47 PM
09/29/21 12:47 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 659
Hiawatha Forrest, U.P. Michiga...
Spade Offline
trapper
Spade  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 659
Hiawatha Forrest, U.P. Michiga...
Yep it is crazy, because most tribes have their own medical facilities, and their DR's are tribe related. The tribes are no different than anyone else, create the problem, then blame everyone else.


24 years Army Medical Corps

I only want to be known as:

A great husband, a good trapper, and a great steward of the land.
Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit [Re: Gary Benson] #7367457
09/29/21 03:23 PM
09/29/21 03:23 PM
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 354
Custer Co, Idaho
S
sneaky Offline
trapper
sneaky  Offline
trapper
S

Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 354
Custer Co, Idaho
Good grief. If I were a spoon manufacturer these days I'd be nervous


Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand
Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit [Re: Gary Benson] #7367463
09/29/21 03:29 PM
09/29/21 03:29 PM
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 33,534
james bay frontierOnt.
B
Boco Offline
trapper
Boco  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 33,534
james bay frontierOnt.
75 million is peanuts to a drug company.
It would be the equivalent of a bout 50 cents out of my pocket.

Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit [Re: Gary Benson] #7367469
09/29/21 03:43 PM
09/29/21 03:43 PM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 10,411
Champaign County, Ohio.
K
KeithC Offline
trapper
KeithC  Offline
trapper
K

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 10,411
Champaign County, Ohio.
Most adult Americans have taken prescription opiods. In just the last two years, even after opiods have been prescribed less, 32% of adult Americans have taken opiods.

https://www.norc.org/NewsEventsPubl...-prescription-in-the-past-two-years.aspx

Traditionally, only 1% of those Americans have been addicted to opiods. Now that money is being given out, 5% of those Americans claimed to have misused opiods. That's still a very small percentage of opiod users.

https://www.psychiatry.org/newsroom/news-releases/nearly-one-in-three-people-know-someone-addicted-to-opioids-more-than-half-of-millennials-believe-it-is-easy-to-get-illegal-opioids#:~:text=Five%20percent%20of%20U.S.%20adults,to%20talk%20about%20the%20problem.

I don't see why companies should be liable if a tiny percentage of defective human beings, who lack self control, misuse their products.

We don't hold alcohol, marijuana and tobacco companies liable in most cases.

Keith

Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit [Re: Gary Benson] #7367470
09/29/21 03:47 PM
09/29/21 03:47 PM
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 442
tennessee
C
clintp1971 Offline
trapper
clintp1971  Offline
trapper
C

Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 442
tennessee
What Keith said!!!!! Why do they have a larger impact on one group over another???

Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit [Re: Gary Benson] #7367473
09/29/21 03:52 PM
09/29/21 03:52 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 14,627
Sandhills Nebraska
G
Gary Benson Offline OP
trapper
Gary Benson  Offline OP
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 14,627
Sandhills Nebraska
Well.........lawyers, judges, and Gubmint like to give out large sums of money to folks because of their heritage.


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit [Re: Gary Benson] #7367476
09/29/21 04:01 PM
09/29/21 04:01 PM
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 2,598
NWT
Ryan McLeod Offline
trapper
Ryan McLeod  Offline
trapper

Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 2,598
NWT
So Taking action produces better results than complaining on social media? Who would've thought? Ive read a lot about greedy pharmaceutical companies on here but when someone pushes back its not a good thing?


If you take care of the land the land will take care of you
Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit [Re: Gary Benson] #7367477
09/29/21 04:04 PM
09/29/21 04:04 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 14,627
Sandhills Nebraska
G
Gary Benson Offline OP
trapper
Gary Benson  Offline OP
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 14,627
Sandhills Nebraska
?


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit [Re: Gary Benson] #7367480
09/29/21 04:05 PM
09/29/21 04:05 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 14,627
Sandhills Nebraska
G
Gary Benson Offline OP
trapper
Gary Benson  Offline OP
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 14,627
Sandhills Nebraska
I guess I'll sue Advil PM because I sleep alot at night.


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit [Re: Gary Benson] #7367483
09/29/21 04:07 PM
09/29/21 04:07 PM
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 2,598
NWT
Ryan McLeod Offline
trapper
Ryan McLeod  Offline
trapper

Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 2,598
NWT
Sue pepto bismol instead to help with the chronic belly aching


If you take care of the land the land will take care of you
Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit [Re: Gary Benson] #7367494
09/29/21 04:29 PM
09/29/21 04:29 PM
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 9,187
Northeast Oklahoma
M
Mike in A-town Offline
trapper
Mike in A-town  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 9,187
Northeast Oklahoma
I'm not surprised... Hoskins is about as corrupt a scumbag as any white man ever thought of being.

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

Vladimir Lenin
Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit [Re: Gary Benson] #7367495
09/29/21 04:33 PM
09/29/21 04:33 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 659
Hiawatha Forrest, U.P. Michiga...
Spade Offline
trapper
Spade  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 659
Hiawatha Forrest, U.P. Michiga...
Originally Posted by Boco
75 million is peanuts to a drug company.
It would be the equivalent of a bout 50 cents out of my pocket.


Yes, Boco it is. But, that does not make it right. I understand the drug companies are somewhat at fault, because of the fact that they were giving DR's a lot of free samples, and in some cases kick backs. However, a lot of DR's are at fault for over prescribing, and they should be held accountable. The patients should be held accountable because they abused the drug. (DR. prescribed one, so I'll take two)., or I won't swallow it. I'll crush it and snort it).
EX: My wife had a wisdom tooth extracted, she was prescribed (3) 30 day supplies of an opioid, at the max. dose. When she told him, she didn't need that many, only one, the dentist told her maybe she'll need them down the road. Needless to say he is not practicing today.

It is just like the tribes got in on tobacco lawsuit. But guess who has cigs. in all their stores, casinos? They have gotten a lot of $ for alcohol
abuse, but guess where all the locals go to buy their booze, or to get their drinks?

They have gotten a lot of $ for opioid abuse, and guess who prescribed the drug, there own doctors.

So I guess it is all right to accept money for bad behavior, by all parties involved.

Last edited by Spade; 09/29/21 04:46 PM.

24 years Army Medical Corps

I only want to be known as:

A great husband, a good trapper, and a great steward of the land.
Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit [Re: Ryan McLeod] #7367496
09/29/21 04:33 PM
09/29/21 04:33 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 14,627
Sandhills Nebraska
G
Gary Benson Offline OP
trapper
Gary Benson  Offline OP
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 14,627
Sandhills Nebraska
Originally Posted by Ryan McLeod
Sue pepto bismol instead to help with the chronic belly aching

Pepto Bismol works great!


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit [Re: Ryan McLeod] #7367505
09/29/21 04:46 PM
09/29/21 04:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 659
Hiawatha Forrest, U.P. Michiga...
Spade Offline
trapper
Spade  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 659
Hiawatha Forrest, U.P. Michiga...
Originally Posted by Ryan McLeod
So Taking action produces better results than complaining on social media? Who would've thought? Ive read a lot about greedy pharmaceutical companies on here but when someone pushes back its not a good thing?


Ryan: It is not about pushing back, it is about creating your own problem, then expect everyone else to pay for it. You talk about greedy pharm companies, but who do you think has oversight on them. (the people who have been elected to represent us) I have been hearing about lower drug prices for over 20 years, and not one darn thing has been done.


24 years Army Medical Corps

I only want to be known as:

A great husband, a good trapper, and a great steward of the land.
Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit [Re: Gary Benson] #7367512
09/29/21 04:55 PM
09/29/21 04:55 PM
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 7,973
Asheville, NC
C
charles Offline
trapper
charles  Offline
trapper
C

Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 7,973
Asheville, NC
They seem to get to double dip into tax paid funds. I suppose they pay county property tax, or do they? Do they pay state income taxes?

Last edited by charles; 09/29/21 04:57 PM.
Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit [Re: Gary Benson] #7367524
09/29/21 05:16 PM
09/29/21 05:16 PM
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,032
wyoming southeast
D
danvee Offline
trapper
danvee  Offline
trapper
D

Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,032
wyoming southeast
A lot of stated did the same thing its not just the natives. The Opioid drug companies lied about the addiction potential and made billions they should pay. They hooked and killed a lot of people, no different than the tobaccos companies. There is a case of making a mistake and another case of giving lies and bad information that will kill people.

Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit [Re: danvee] #7367550
09/29/21 06:14 PM
09/29/21 06:14 PM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 10,411
Champaign County, Ohio.
K
KeithC Offline
trapper
KeithC  Offline
trapper
K

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 10,411
Champaign County, Ohio.
Originally Posted by danvee
A lot of stated did the same thing its not just the natives. The Opioid drug companies lied about the addiction potential and made billions they should pay. They hooked and killed a lot of people, no different than the tobaccos companies. There is a case of making a mistake and another case of giving lies and bad information that will kill people.


The addiction potential is 1%. Opiods help the other 99% of people who take them, without issues, which is why they were prescribed to 32% of American adults over the last 2 years, even with all the bad press. Overall, opiods are very safe, compared to virtually any other commonly used drug.

Keith

Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit [Re: danvee] #7367610
09/29/21 07:42 PM
09/29/21 07:42 PM
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 4,926
Iowa
T
trapdog1 Offline
trapper
trapdog1  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 4,926
Iowa
Originally Posted by danvee
A lot of stated did the same thing its not just the natives. The Opioid drug companies lied about the addiction potential and made billions they should pay. They hooked and killed a lot of people, no different than the tobaccos companies. There is a case of making a mistake and another case of giving lies and bad information that will kill people.

Don't these drugs need to be prescribed by a doctor? You'd have to be a moron not to know the potential danger.

Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit [Re: Gary Benson] #7367672
09/29/21 09:11 PM
09/29/21 09:11 PM
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 899
South Central Wisconsin
N
Nelly Offline
trapper
Nelly  Offline
trapper
N

Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 899
South Central Wisconsin
Exactly.
Who wrote the prescriptions?
I kind of vaguely remember oxy contin being touted as a less addictive alternative to to the existing opiates.
It apparently wasn't.


I'm just a soul whose intentions are good. O Lord please don't let me be misunderstood.
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread