Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit
[Re: Gary Benson]
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Yep it is crazy, because most tribes have their own medical facilities, and their DR's are tribe related. The tribes are no different than anyone else, create the problem, then blame everyone else.
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Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit
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09/29/21 04:23 PM
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Good grief. If I were a spoon manufacturer these days I'd be nervous
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Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit
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09/29/21 04:29 PM
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75 million is peanuts to a drug company. It would be the equivalent of a bout 50 cents out of my pocket.
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Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit
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09/29/21 04:43 PM
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Most adult Americans have taken prescription opiods. In just the last two years, even after opiods have been prescribed less, 32% of adult Americans have taken opiods. https://www.norc.org/NewsEventsPubl...-prescription-in-the-past-two-years.aspxTraditionally, only 1% of those Americans have been addicted to opiods. Now that money is being given out, 5% of those Americans claimed to have misused opiods. That's still a very small percentage of opiod users. https://www.psychiatry.org/newsroom/news-releases/nearly-one-in-three-people-know-someone-addicted-to-opioids-more-than-half-of-millennials-believe-it-is-easy-to-get-illegal-opioids#:~:text=Five%20percent%20of%20U.S.%20adults,to%20talk%20about%20the%20problem. I don't see why companies should be liable if a tiny percentage of defective human beings, who lack self control, misuse their products. We don't hold alcohol, marijuana and tobacco companies liable in most cases. Keith
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Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit
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09/29/21 04:52 PM
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Well.........lawyers, judges, and Gubmint like to give out large sums of money to folks because of their heritage.
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Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit
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So Taking action produces better results than complaining on social media? Who would've thought? Ive read a lot about greedy pharmaceutical companies on here but when someone pushes back its not a good thing?
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Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit
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Sue pepto bismol instead to help with the chronic belly aching
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Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit
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I'm not surprised... Hoskins is about as corrupt a scumbag as any white man ever thought of being.
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Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit
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75 million is peanuts to a drug company. It would be the equivalent of a bout 50 cents out of my pocket. Yes, Boco it is. But, that does not make it right. I understand the drug companies are somewhat at fault, because of the fact that they were giving DR's a lot of free samples, and in some cases kick backs. However, a lot of DR's are at fault for over prescribing, and they should be held accountable. The patients should be held accountable because they abused the drug. (DR. prescribed one, so I'll take two)., or I won't swallow it. I'll crush it and snort it). EX: My wife had a wisdom tooth extracted, she was prescribed (3) 30 day supplies of an opioid, at the max. dose. When she told him, she didn't need that many, only one, the dentist told her maybe she'll need them down the road. Needless to say he is not practicing today. It is just like the tribes got in on tobacco lawsuit. But guess who has cigs. in all their stores, casinos? They have gotten a lot of $ for alcohol abuse, but guess where all the locals go to buy their booze, or to get their drinks? They have gotten a lot of $ for opioid abuse, and guess who prescribed the drug, there own doctors. So I guess it is all right to accept money for bad behavior, by all parties involved.
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Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit
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Sue pepto bismol instead to help with the chronic belly aching Pepto Bismol works great!
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Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit
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So Taking action produces better results than complaining on social media? Who would've thought? Ive read a lot about greedy pharmaceutical companies on here but when someone pushes back its not a good thing? Ryan: It is not about pushing back, it is about creating your own problem, then expect everyone else to pay for it. You talk about greedy pharm companies, but who do you think has oversight on them. (the people who have been elected to represent us) I have been hearing about lower drug prices for over 20 years, and not one darn thing has been done.
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Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit
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They seem to get to double dip into tax paid funds. I suppose they pay county property tax, or do they? Do they pay state income taxes?
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Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit
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A lot of stated did the same thing its not just the natives. The Opioid drug companies lied about the addiction potential and made billions they should pay. They hooked and killed a lot of people, no different than the tobaccos companies. There is a case of making a mistake and another case of giving lies and bad information that will kill people. The addiction potential is 1%. Opiods help the other 99% of people who take them, without issues, which is why they were prescribed to 32% of American adults over the last 2 years, even with all the bad press. Overall, opiods are very safe, compared to virtually any other commonly used drug. Keith
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Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit
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A lot of stated did the same thing its not just the natives. The Opioid drug companies lied about the addiction potential and made billions they should pay. They hooked and killed a lot of people, no different than the tobaccos companies. There is a case of making a mistake and another case of giving lies and bad information that will kill people. Don't these drugs need to be prescribed by a doctor? You'd have to be a moron not to know the potential danger.
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Re: Cherokee Nation wins $75 million lawsuit
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Exactly. Who wrote the prescriptions? I kind of vaguely remember oxy contin being touted as a less addictive alternative to to the existing opiates. It apparently wasn't.
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