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Re: Non Resident kills Non Resident [Re: Chamacat] #7368279
09/30/21 06:43 PM
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The archery hunter who was shot by a muzzleloader hunter wasn’t required to wear the 500 square inches of orange that the muzzleloader hunter was required to wear. The Colorado seasons overlap and you only have to wear orange during a firearms season if you are hunting with a firearm.


That's a law created by idiots. If there are rifle hunters in the woods in numbers such that blaze orange is required for them, every hunter in the woods should be smart enough to wear orange.

In reading a posting regarding this event on another forum I got the impression the bow hunter was using a 2D bull elk decoy, but I am not sure my impression is correct.

Given that this is an "on-going investigation" with charges filed, I don't think we will get the full story until after the trial, and I expect Co law will be changed before that happens.

Re: Non Resident kills Non Resident [Re: Chamacat] #7368280
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It definitely sounds like the gun hunter knew he shot a man and just ran to me....

Re: Non Resident kills Non Resident [Re: Chamacat] #7368292
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Every hunter in the woods should be smart enough to identify his target prior to pulling the trigger. Farmers lose livestock every year to unethical hunters because they aren't wearing blaze orange cow protection vests.




Re: Non Resident kills Non Resident [Re: Chamacat] #7368296
09/30/21 07:11 PM
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Third rule of gun safety here.

Always be absolutely sure to identify your target, and what lies in front of and beyond it.


You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training.

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Re: Non Resident kills Non Resident [Re: Chamacat] #7368307
09/30/21 07:26 PM
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Re: Non Resident kills Non Resident [Re: Chamacat] #7368319
09/30/21 07:44 PM
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Crying shame... The ML guy could possibly have saved the Bow hunters lif"e had he reported the "mistake " immediately.


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Re: Non Resident kills Non Resident [Re: DelawareRob] #7368357
09/30/21 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DelawareRob
Third rule of gun safety here.

Always be absolutely sure to identify your target, and what lies in front of and beyond it.


Don't start quoting gun safety laws . TOO many STEEL target shooters on here. You know Don't shoot any hard flat surfaces.

Re: Non Resident kills Non Resident [Re: Chamacat] #7368360
09/30/21 08:22 PM
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BUT if the bow hunter was using / carrying a elk decoy then the idiot one may not be the one still alive !! BIG IF

Re: Non Resident kills Non Resident [Re: Chamacat] #7368383
09/30/21 08:38 PM
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Yep..Never heard anything about a elk decoy..When hunting with a elk decoy it is usually a cow elk during this time of year..There is a strategy in using a cow elk decoy..It takes two or more people besides the elk bow hunter to make it work..The bow hunter never works the decoy..It would make more sense to me if the story read that a man was shot by a muzzle loader hunter carrying a elk decoy in the woods..not the bow hunter...but then again these people are Non Residents in elk country so who knows...sad

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Re: Non Resident kills Non Resident [Re: jbyrd63] #7368390
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Originally Posted by DelawareRob
Third rule of gun safety here.

Always be absolutely sure to identify your target, and what lies in front of and beyond it.


Don't start quoting gun safety laws . TOO many STEEL target shooters on here. You know Don't shoot any hard flat surfaces.


Lol, yeah I shoot steel too. And yell at people when they set up 5 feet from the target.

I give them this

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You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training.

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Re: Non Resident kills Non Resident [Re: Lugnut] #7368415
09/30/21 09:03 PM
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Morosko is currently charged with criminally negligent homicide


As he should be. The fool was old enough to know better. I wonder how many other hunters he shot at in PA.


PA can be a scary place at times.

Re: Non Resident kills Non Resident [Re: Chamacat] #7368445
09/30/21 09:23 PM
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I think the theme should be…

Please be careful and identify your target.

Also, please be as visible as possible to other hunters. Even if you aren’t “legally” required to wear hunter orange (or pink). Please be safe and wear it even if not required.

Deer can’t see orange, but the people shooting at sound hopefully will.


Also, please wear a fall arrest harness whenever you are hunting above ground level.


Hunter safety rant over…. Well not really, I will always say something, it’s my second job.


You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training.

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Re: Non Resident kills Non Resident [Re: Chamacat] #7368469
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You'd have a heart attack if you saw the rickety stands I hunt out of without a harness lol.

Re: Non Resident kills Non Resident [Re: yotetrapper30] #7368479
09/30/21 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
You'd have a heart attack if you saw the rickety stands I hunt out of without a harness lol.


mad

Please wear one going forward.


You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training.

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Re: Non Resident kills Non Resident [Re: Chamacat] #7368938
10/01/21 12:20 PM
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Once worked with a guy who told me a story about shooting at two deer that were running across a field. He said he walked out of the woods and saw the flags of two deer running across the field and opened up on them (which is bad enough). When he walked to check for blood he realized that it was two kids with white hats swinging on a swing set. Some people are plain idiots with guns.

Re: Non Resident kills Non Resident [Re: Chamacat] #7368957
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Originally Posted by Chamacat
Yep..Never heard anything about a elk decoy..When hunting with a elk decoy it is usually a cow elk during this time of year..There is a strategy in using a cow elk decoy..It takes two or more people besides the elk bow hunter to make it work..The bow hunter never works the decoy..It would make more sense to me if the story read that a man was shot by a muzzle loader hunter carrying a elk decoy in the woods..not the bow hunter...but then again these people are Non Residents in elk country so who knows...sad


These will get a few more bow hunters killed if safety doesn't prevail.
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Re: Non Resident kills Non Resident [Re: Chamacat] #7368969
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Running guns and arrows together is a stupid idea that only a bureaucrat would think is a good one.

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Re: Non Resident kills Non Resident [Re: Gary Benson] #7368986
10/01/21 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
I member a gal back east getting shot for a whitetail cuz she had white mittens on. City folks only get out once a year! I've caught shotgun pellets from city quail hunters.

If I remember correctly she on her deck. Had just stepped out of her house

Re: Non Resident kills Non Resident [Re: warrior] #7369002
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by jbyrd63
In Ky IF you archery hunt during a firearm season you have to wear the blaze orange vest and hat. Why should half the hunters have an orange vest on and the other half not ? It says a lot for western game laws lacking common sense. Bull calling hunter calling in another hunter.


Georgia is pretty much the same. If a gun season for deer is in then orange must be worn by all, at all times, if hunting deer, bear or hogs.
Does not apply if small game hunting on private land or if archery hunting on archery only WMAs.

That's how it should be. In MN, if you're trapping during deer rifle season, you're a fool if you don't wear blaze orange. That's just good common sense. The same applies to a bow hunter during rifle season. They must wear blaze orange.


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Re: Non Resident kills Non Resident [Re: Chamacat] #7369008
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Don't know all the details yet but sounds like the bow hunter was coming into the gun hunters calls. Either way BOTH made a mistake ! Only problem is the bow hunters was fatal and the gun hunter will pay for the rest of his life.

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