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Re: New MB 550 Mod [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #7368771
10/01/21 09:06 AM
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Trap manufacturers of 40 years ago would literally laugh out loud at this statement.

Originally Posted by Rusty Axe Camp
but maybe it they are fired enough or when dryfired, it wears down the lever and lets it slip past the shoulder on the jaw.


I know its not good practice to dry fire a trap. But if firing a trap too much causes it to wear out then that is not a trap I'm interested in having.

You're paying for "the best of the best" when you buy these traps. This is not that


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Re: New MB 550 Mod [Re: coondagger2] #7368826
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Originally Posted by coondagger2
Trap manufacturers of 40 years ago would literally laugh out loud at this statement.

Originally Posted by Rusty Axe Camp
but maybe it they are fired enough or when dryfired, it wears down the lever and lets it slip past the shoulder on the jaw.


I know its not good practice to dry fire a trap. But if firing a trap too much causes it to wear out then that is not a trap I'm interested in having.

You're paying for "the best of the best" when you buy these traps. This is not that


I agree.

That said, it's not like it makes the trap not function.

Re: traps 40 years ago - Some were good and stout but there is also a reason Paul's dad (among others) wrote books on how to mod traps.




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Re: New MB 550 Mod [Re: kinley31] #7368872
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I agree mods are necessary on a lot of them, but they are still kicking.

The mods needed are due to having critters in the traps that the traps were not designed for. Not because of poor design quality or material choices


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Re: New MB 550 Mod [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #7368920
10/01/21 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty Axe Camp
Originally Posted by ~ADC~
I bet they added them beads of weld to the closed jaw traps because the lugs don't hold open the jaws as wide as the offset version. Narrower jaws allowed the lever to slip past the bumps forged onto the outside of the jaws.



That was my thought. Never noticed a problem with my other ones, but maybe it they are fired enough or when dryfired, it wears down the lever and lets it slip past the shoulder on the jaw.

Like I said, kinda nitpicky, but just didn't seem up to normal MTP quality.


I agree, I'd expect better for the high price.

Re: New MB 550 Mod [Re: kinley31] #7368953
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Kind of like Ford or Chevy saying..."We're going to add a spot weld to your steering column until we get better steel in." "Too many people have been oversteering with our cheapened column, causing a steering failure." To MTP, please fix the problem appropriately, and quit putting shoddy products into the market. If that means waiting on better steel...then wait.

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Re: New MB 550 Mod [Re: kinley31] #7368973
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I think MB read that thread just below this one..."just a quick tack weld"


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Re: New MB 550 Mod [Re: kinley31] #7368992
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I have 10 dozen 550’s, so you can say I like the design.

I noticed the last couple of times I bought them that the levers seemed different, the openings where bigger allowing the lever to jump past the stop on the jaw.

When you by your parts overseas, quality control is not always a given.

Maybe trying to use a standard lever for multiple traps saves money but isn’t always a proper fit.

But when you are intimate with certain traps, changes stick out.

And things that are touted as improvements are really just money savers.

All the above is just conjecture but hey it just might be fact.

Re: New MB 550 Mod [Re: kinley31] #7369006
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Didnt Mb say they were using jaws from taiwan? I got some and assumed the new jaws were slightly smaller than the american ones.

Re: New MB 550 Mod [Re: kinley31] #7370236
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I am just getting back into trapping as of last winter and been doing some research on different traps to upgrade so to speak. I don't want to get blasted for this question but there
Is another mfg. that makes a 550 are they having any of these issues. I do own both brands have had no issues as of yet.

Re: New MB 550 Mod [Re: Slipknot] #7370617
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
I am just getting back into trapping as of last winter and been doing some research on different traps to upgrade so to speak. I don't want to get blasted for this question but there
Is another mfg. that makes a 550 are they having any of these issues. I do own both brands have had no issues as of yet.


No troubles with the Dukes other than the first run had levers that bent some but they have addressed that and no longer have an issue. If you got the first run traps and want to change them out Duke will send you free replacement levers. The traps still work with the original levers but if they get bent on you, let them know.

Re: New MB 550 Mod [Re: kinley31] #7373408
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If higher faster better lock up I'd be all for this.
Performance trumps looks for me.
Have tested this plenty with other models
and read were they test theirs before release.
Cracked levers not so much.

I own none of these because of vehicles running over
cast expensive traps, so will now shut up.





Re: New MB 550 Mod [Re: kinley31] #7373492
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Tailhunter, [i]"when you are intimate with certain traps,"[/i] A little too much cabin fever there? I, on the other hand, love my 220's LOL......................... the mike

Re: New MB 550 Mod [Re: Wife] #7379310
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Tailhunter, [i]"when you are intimate with certain traps,"[/i] A little too much cabin fever there? I, on the other hand, love my 220's LOL......................... the mike


Not really just always want to know how my equipment operates and functions. If there are needed repairs, I make them.

After dealing with so many traps over the years you get to know them. grin

Re: New MB 550 Mod [Re: Wright Brothers] #7379313
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Originally Posted by Wright Brothers
If higher faster better lock up I'd be all for this.
Performance trumps looks for me.
Have tested this plenty with other models
and read were they test theirs before release.
Cracked levers not so much.

I own none of these because of vehicles running over
cast expensive traps, so will now shut up.


There is a difference between a cheesy “fix” and actually assessing a problem and making corrections to the production process.

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