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Re: Propane availability [Re: larrywaugh] #7371173
10/04/21 01:13 PM
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Re: Propane availability [Re: larrywaugh] #7371237
10/04/21 02:25 PM
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Filled all the tanks here on 9/23. $2.79/gallon.

Propane company said prices will likely keep increasing.

Re: Propane availability [Re: larrywaugh] #7371721
10/05/21 05:58 AM
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Interesting post about propane
propane

Re: Propane availability [Re: Pike River] #7371757
10/05/21 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Pike River

Biden sucks.

Ok.... Now that we got that out of the way, what decision did Biden make in the last 9 months that would effect prices so rapidly?


Ok PR, let's do some obvious reasoning here.

What is causing every business out there the biggest problem now?

What is the root cause of that problem?

There is your answer.


"A truth doesnít mind being questioned. A lie doesnít like being challenged."
Re: Propane availability [Re: larrywaugh] #7371783
10/05/21 07:46 AM
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Filled in September for $1.89. Could I have actually done it at the right time for a change?

Re: Propane availability [Re: larrywaugh] #7371795
10/05/21 07:56 AM
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Local coop had a 100% pre-pay program at $1.69 so paid for 600 gallons for our house & shop and 1,000 gallons at my mother's home. Mom's tank was filled last Friday and truck price is $2.12 for now, driver said he wouldn't be surprised if it went >$3 this heating season. Glad to have fire-wood as primary house heat!

Dave


Forever in debt to my Father who introduced me to trapping.
May I be half the man he was.
Re: Propane availability [Re: Pike River] #7371868
10/05/21 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Pike River


what decision did Biden make in the last 9 months that would effect prices so rapidly?


This is way too easy Piker:

"Bidenís drilling moratoriums, discouragement of investment in the U.S. oil and gas sector, as well as the demonization of the oil and gas industry, are putting the U.S. on the verge of an energy crisis"


you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
Re: Propane availability [Re: larrywaugh] #7371879
10/05/21 09:48 AM
10/05/21 09:48 AM
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You can take that " on the verge " out of your sentence. It is an energy crisis in the making and there is no stopping it with the idiots that are currently at the helm.


I do all my own stunts ..... but never intentionally .................. Let's go Brandon
Re: Propane availability [Re: larrywaugh] #7371884
10/05/21 09:55 AM
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Idiots may be too kind but don't know if there's a word to properly describe them.


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Re: Propane availability [Re: larrywaugh] #7371887
10/05/21 09:57 AM
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Well Gary it's i kid friendly site, so I can't type what I really think


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Re: Propane availability [Re: Scuba1] #7371894
10/05/21 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
You can take that " on the verge " out of your sentence. It is an energy crisis in the making and there is no stopping it with the idiots that are currently at the helm.


It's not "my" sentence it is a "quote" from the Fox Business News link posted by the OP.
That said, "on the verge" and "in the making" seem very similar, no?


you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
Re: Propane availability [Re: larrywaugh] #7371906
10/05/21 10:32 AM
10/05/21 10:32 AM
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On the verge is standing at the edge of the cliff. In the making is taking that last step.


I do all my own stunts ..... but never intentionally .................. Let's go Brandon
Re: Propane availability [Re: PAlltheway] #7371928
10/05/21 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by PAlltheway
Interesting post about propane
propane

That is an interesting post and realistic when they say, "green plans and goals are simply unachievable". Common sense should indicate that.
Propane has been proven to be safe for the environment, more cost efficient, and more practical than all the green nonsense.


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Re: Propane availability [Re: Trapper7] #7371930
10/05/21 11:28 AM
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Trapper7, reason, logic, fair play, the rule of law all left the conversation being led and implemented by the Biden* administration. Their goal is open now: to destroy America so they can remake us into their socialist utopia. They and their foreign allies are attacking American culture, law, identity, economy etc from every angle. They know they have a short window of opportunity to achieve their most important milestones, so they have pulled out the stops on everything. Anything associated with domestic energy production is a form and symbol of American independence, and so the lawless illegal Biden* administration is attacking our energy supplies and production. People keep saying the administration is full of idiots. No, they are not idiots. They are doing things completely the opposite of how WE would do things because they feel the OPPOSITE about America than we do. They are raising prices and creating economic chaos because it creates a crisis they can exploit for political gain.
America is in huge trouble. Our nation is being deliberately failed by domestic enemies working with foreign enemies against We, The People.
Propane price dynamics are just one good example.

Re: Propane availability [Re: Scuba1] #7371938
10/05/21 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
On the verge is standing at the edge of the cliff. In the making is taking that last step.


In the making would be walking up to the cliff.

Re: Propane availability [Re: larrywaugh] #7371943
10/05/21 11:56 AM
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The propane shortage ( if it exists ) is probably related to all the other shortages created by the rona nonsense last year. Printing money last year and handing it out means people have money to spend, but a shortage of products to buy. This causes prices to increase. Enjoy!


Who is John Galt?
Re: Propane availability [Re: larrywaugh] #7371949
10/05/21 12:13 PM
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It isn't just a US problem. There is an energy shortage world wide. China has instructed it's agencies to "secure" all the energy they will need for the coming winter. Germany has shut down their nukes and is buying power from France. The EU has restricted fracking and is buying natural gas from Russia who.......just cut back the shipments to Europe by 57% ( who saw that coming ? )

And of course, the brainiacs in the New England states have prohibited fracking and are IMPORTING natural gas from Russia into Boston. And WE have more natural gas than any other country.

Lets not forget the pipelines that can't be built or the leases that can't be drilled, or the shut in production due to the hurricane.

But by all means let's raise taxes on those evil energy companies


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Re: Propane availability [Re: larrywaugh] #7371961
10/05/21 12:39 PM
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"Russian Output
Europe is facing gas shortages, but Russia has a crunch of its own. Gazprom has boosted production this year, but itís directing the additional output to refill depleted storage sites at home. Russia has been producing close to its maximum capacity, but its domestic needs have curbed availability to Europe, according to the Oxford Institute for Energy Studies.

ďRussia is not running out of gas and its prolific gas reserves allow Russia to meet much higher overall demand, but this requires time, money, and contractual assurances of offtake,Ē said OIES Senior Research Fellow Vitaly Yermakov.

Some analysts have argued that Russia has capped flows to Europe as a way to get its controversial Nord Stream 2 pipeline to Germany online. Flows through the link could improve supplies, but the start of commercial operations will depend on regulatory certification ó first in Germany, then at the European Commission. That could run well into next year. US sanctions have also created challenges for the project.

The IEA stressed that itís wrong to blame the shift away from fossil fuels for the surge in gas prices. The comments came a week after Frans Timmermans, the EUís climate chief, warned that the record spike in energy prices must not undermine the European Unionís resolve to cut emissions.

ďRecent increases in global natural gas prices are the result of multiple factors, and it is inaccurate and misleading to lay the responsibility at the door of the clean energy transition,Ē said IEA Executive Director Fatih Birol."


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Re: Propane availability [Re: PAlltheway] #7371974
10/05/21 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PAlltheway
Trapper7, reason, logic, fair play, the rule of law all left the conversation being led and implemented by the Biden* administration. Their goal is open now: to destroy America so they can remake us into their socialist utopia. They and their foreign allies are attacking American culture, law, identity, economy etc from every angle. They know they have a short window of opportunity to achieve their most important milestones, so they have pulled out the stops on everything. Anything associated with domestic energy production is a form and symbol of American independence, and so the lawless illegal Biden* administration is attacking our energy supplies and production. People keep saying the administration is full of idiots. No, they are not idiots. They are doing things completely the opposite of how WE would do things because they feel the OPPOSITE about America than we do. They are raising prices and creating economic chaos because it creates a crisis they can exploit for political gain.
America is in huge trouble. Our nation is being deliberately failed by domestic enemies working with foreign enemies against We, The People.
Propane price dynamics are just one good example.

I couldn't have said it better.


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Re: Propane availability [Re: Dirt] #7371983
10/05/21 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
"Russian Output

The IEA stressed that itís wrong to blame the shift away from fossil fuels for the surge in gas prices. The comments came a week after Frans Timmermans, the EUís climate chief, warned that the record spike in energy prices must not undermine the European Unionís resolve to cut emissions.

ďRecent increases in global natural gas prices are the result of multiple factors, and it is inaccurate and misleading to lay the responsibility at the door of the clean energy transition,Ē said IEA Executive Director Fatih Birol."


Propaganda anyone?

The "...shift away from fossil fuels..." and "...the clean energy transition,...", sounds like the perfect way to destabilize fossil energy.



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