Re: Cussed and threatened by coworker
[Re: Davisfur]
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10/06/21 09:48 PM
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So many things going on here just from one side of the account. Plenty of blame to go all around ... facility design, owner, no conflict resolution and de-escalation skills anywhere in management, and the individuals involved.
Generally threatening the 'him or me' never works out for anyone. You can't successfully dictate what action must be taken unless you own the business. Additionally, having private conversations with your employer suggesting use of force against another individual puts you in an undesirable employment position. I understand you were upset; but calm will always win in the end. But both those cards are now in play.
Better to start looking for another job. Regardless how this turns out, any savy business owner will keep this event and how you have managed it as a supervisor in the back of their mind for the rest of your employment.
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Re: Cussed and threatened by coworker
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10/06/21 09:49 PM
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Should have never mentioned armed defense to your boss. Now that u have and if things go south and you do use lethal force.....aint gonna go good for u. Yes. And it's bad tactics to forewarn the enemy. Jim
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Re: Cussed and threatened by coworker
[Re: Davisfur]
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Re: Cussed and threatened by coworker
[Re: Davisfur]
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10/06/21 09:56 PM
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Pop him over the head with that crowbar.... jerk his britches down and stick a lit black cat firecracker in his butt... walk off and go work for the county driving the maintainer
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Re: Cussed and threatened by coworker
[Re: Davisfur]
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10/06/21 10:06 PM
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slap the taste outta his mouth..... zero tolerance for disrespect.
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Re: Cussed and threatened by coworker
[Re: Davisfur]
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There is also the legal route. What you are describing fits the legal definition of what is called assault in Kansas. Not sure what it would be called where you live. There doesn’t have to be physical contact. In Kansas it is defined as “ placing you in fear or apprehension of bodily harm “. Then there could be the restraining order, no contact order, etc
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Re: Cussed and threatened by coworker
[Re: Davisfur]
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I didn't read all the posts but sounds like your boss needs to do his job so you can do yours .
The DB needs terminated
The " short handed " excuse doesn't cut it I suspect the boss has helped create the problem ....no past proper disciplinary action , no documentation , etc
Prolly afraid of retaliation
Sounds like he may end up loosing a good employee when he could have grown a pair and rid the company of a toxic DB.
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Re: Cussed and threatened by coworker
[Re: Davisfur]
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Sounds like he is "gaslighting" you. I would document(video or paper) then ignore him. Had this happen to me for 7 yrs. gets old, but just words. The day the guy quit bothering me was when he started to say something about my wife as i was walking away. He shut his trap fast when i turned around, took of my hat, and clenched my fists as i walked toward him. He ran off, and didnt bother me again after that.
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Re: Cussed and threatened by coworker
[Re: Davisfur]
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10/06/21 11:03 PM
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It seems nobody wants to get burned on a daily basis for $20 an hour and no benefits anymore. If that's what you're making you should be looking for another job regardless of this jerk you're working with.
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Re: Cussed and threatened by coworker
[Re: Davisfur]
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It seems nobody wants to get burned on a daily basis for $20 an hour and no benefits anymore. If that's what you're making you should be looking for another job regardless of this jerk you're working with. You can likely find a similar job, at your experience level, that pays well over $30.00 an hour. Keith
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Re: Cussed and threatened by coworker
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The use of lethal force comment is all blowing smoke bull. You had a steel bar in your hand and did nothing you would have done nothing if you would have had a gun or knife either. I bet you probably did have a knife in your pocket but didn't even think about it. If your like me the knife is though of as a tool not a weapon. Not knocking you but don't lie to yourself.
I worked construction with lots of guys like you describe. I thumped some heads, got my head thumped, and walked off jobs refusing to work with someone unstable that close to me. What's best? Staying calm and walking off to another job . When it get physical you will be getting another job not by choice at that point and win or lose you still loose.
I would call in until I found another job or tell he fired me. Just my .02
You can speculate on what would have happened had I been armed if you like that's your opinion and I don't hold it against you. But just so we are clear I was holding a 3 foot long bar which was what I could reach at the moment that had more reach than my pocket knife which was the first thought in my head but quickly ruled out due to the leather gloves I was wearing making it pretty much useless to try and retrieve from my pocket. But the bar was what stopped him short of coming in contact with me. He never closed the distance close enough to reach with the bar let alone a knife and I did not advance towards him nor did I back away from him, when the ordeal was over it was him slinking back to his hole not me. I have no desire to go hand to hand with a guy half my weight has half again more reach than me and is more experienced in fighting not to mention likely hoped up on who knows what because we do not and have never drug tested anyone for fear of losing the entire workforce. And no I am not related in any way to coonman although I can see how this thread would make it seem so.
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