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Speed dip guys #7313399
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Thinking about dipping some 330 in speed dip today. It's Supposed to be 86 with 31 percent humidity and a breeze. Does that sound like low enuf humidity? Remember this is mn where it's humid untill the snow flies!

Re: Speed dip guys [Re: MnJag] #7313402
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Let it rip….4:1 …or 5:1 ration with Coleman fuel….dip and hang …for a couple weeks.


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Re: Speed dip guys [Re: MnJag] #7313406
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Keep stirring the mixture and hang newly dipped traps in the shade. As Nessmuck mentioned,thin the dip more than directions say.
Have fun and avoid a sun stroke--this hot weather stinks.
Tom


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Re: Speed dip guys [Re: Bogmaster] #7313410
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Originally Posted by Bogmaster
Keep stirring the mixture and hang newly dipped traps in the shade. As Nessmuck mentioned,thin the dip more than directions say.
Have fun and avoid a sun stroke--this hot weather stinks.
Tom

What's the thinking of hanging them in the shade? Just curious never tried it that way always waited until the would be hanging in the sun! I have them hanging in the sun now before I dip them to let them get warm! Is that not a good idea either? Just seemed like a good idea in my head.

Re: Speed dip guys [Re: MnJag] #7313412
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I LOVE speed dip. Only thing is that it's messy. Honestly, you can test ratios. I think a thinner mix can be better so your traps aren't super tacky.


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Re: Speed dip guys [Re: MnJag] #7313422
07/25/21 01:25 PM
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I wouldn't worry about sun/shade. Hang them where you can.

Re: Speed dip guys [Re: MnJag] #7313427
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Carrol Black (Blackie) also had a dip like speed dip,he recommended keeping newly dipped traps in the shade. I have always followed his advice and never had problems with dipped traps. Thinning and stirring are also essential for good results. Thats how I do it ,and will continue to follow what has worked well for me.
Tom


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Originally Posted by Dawg Catcher
I never worried about sun or shade as well. They go on the fence and stay there until trapping season and have never had a problem either.

This is what I'm thinking now. I did some in the sun some in the shade. Look about the same to me. It was nice working in the shade though. I think as long as your dip is thin it will come out good. Can't say what my raito was as i used leftover dip from last year and added about a half gallon of Colman fuel to a gallon of left over dip. It ran like water.

Re: Speed dip guys [Re: MnJag] #7313642
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I use 5:1-6:1 ratio. Pretty thin. And I use regular non ethanol gas. 330s don't fit in my bucket of dip, so I just hold a paper towel or whatever I have handy with some pliers and blot it on.

Re: Speed dip guys [Re: Bogmaster] #7313892
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Originally Posted by Bogmaster
Carrol Black (Blackie) also had a dip like speed dip,he recommended keeping newly dipped traps in the shade. I have always followed his advice and never had problems with dipped traps. Thinning and stirring are also essential for good results. Thats how I do it ,and will continue to follow what has worked well for me.
Tom


Is there a reason to place the dipped traps in the shade rather than the hot sun? Last year was the first timeI I used Speed Dip and I let them in the hot sun and it worked out well although it still took over a month to eliminate any tackiness from the dip. I also have very little humidity in my area.

Re: Speed dip guys [Re: MnJag] #7313898
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Like stated above I like to thin it out more than the recommended ratio. I usually dip 4-6 traps wired together and hang on a rack outside. Then I take a battery powered leaf blower and hit em with that about 30 seconds, it removes the pooled up places on the traps and seems to eliminate any sticky spots

Re: Speed dip guys [Re: bgfur3065] #7313929
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Originally Posted by bgfur3065
Like stated above I like to thin it out more than the recommended ratio. I usually dip 4-6 traps wired together and hang on a rack outside. Then I take a battery powered leaf blower and hit em with that about 30 seconds, it removes the pooled up places on the traps and seems to eliminate any sticky spots


That is a good idea. I have a friend that has speed dipped for years. I think it was about three or four years ago that he came up with the leaf blower idea. Good thinking. How many of you guys dip your canine traps?

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Mac



Re: Speed dip guys [Re: loosegoose] #7378622
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
330s don't fit in my bucket of dip, so I just hold a paper towel or whatever I have handy with some pliers and blot it on.
Not a bad idea. I bet a paint brush would work too. Plus, sometimes a person might only want to touch up or treat certain key areas instead of dipping the entire trap

Re: Speed dip guys [Re: MnJag] #7378831
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What AJE said...obviously the paint brush will be ruined so I keep it with my speed dip bucket and use it strictly for dipping. I use the brush to apply dip to my 280s/330s. It will be stiff until it is immersed in the dip for a bit but works fine.
Mac just got dipping a few traps that I got in a BUY OUT. Thin dip... cleaned traps up, adjusted pan and dog, checked chain and swivels, dipped the traps, hung them out for bit and done!

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Want a cheap speed dip?, get a gallon of non fibered foundation coat, thin with paint thinners , great net dip, trap,chain,tool etc. dip...

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What’s the price per gallon gcs?

Re: Speed dip guys [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7378910
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Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
Originally Posted by Bogmaster
Carrol Black (Blackie) also had a dip like speed dip,he recommended keeping newly dipped traps in the shade. I have always followed his advice and never had problems with dipped traps. Thinning and stirring are also essential for good results. Thats how I do it ,and will continue to follow what has worked well for me.
Tom


Is there a reason to place the dipped traps in the shade rather than the hot sun? Last year was the first timeI I used Speed Dip and I let them in the hot sun and it worked out well although it still took over a month to eliminate any tackiness from the dip. I also have very little humidity in my area.


Maybe thin it a little more or make sure it stirred real well. If it's not stirred well thick stuff will build up at the bottom of the bucket and then coat trap heavier. I usually have landscaping timbers spread across saw horses. I twist a 20" inch piece of wire in the swivels on each each of trap. Dip 2 traps at once for about 5 seconds pull out and shake real well. Then hang over timber. After hanging for about a week I take off wire and set traps up right on a piece of blandex board to dry the tops.
After dried sometimes there will be a pooled spot that is tacky. I just take a screwdriver and skim that spot off.

If you leave out in the direct summer sun to long I notice the dip will start to crack.

Re: Speed dip guys [Re: MnJag] #7379031
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McChewk, The foundation coat, basically asphalt, can be bought at any HD, Lowes, etc. by the gallon can,Thinners too, don't know current price. final cost depends how much you thin it, it doesn't need to be too thick, you'd just need to test and alter.
Could use gas to thin also, might be a little cheaper.
Either way it'll be less then supply house dip.

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Thanks

Re: Speed dip guys [Re: MnJag] #7379131
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I use paint brush on stabilizers, stakes an 330 s, to big submerge in dip bucket an throw brush garbage when done, have speed dip for years on traps , if didn't, I go with another dip an try other speed dip , get kinda late for speed dip with fall cool weather

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