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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7375920
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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7375939
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So these 20 or 30 wolf pictures are of different wolves ?


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7375954
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Many of them are different. I have a camera on the beaver dam on the small river behind my house and people are absolutely amazed at the pictures of all different animals that use that dam to cross. Wolves love to hunt beaver along that dam sometimes have as many as 4 in one picture.


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7375956
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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: AJE] #7377349
10/12/21 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by AJE

Does anyone know if the court case is still going to happen on 10/29? That will effect whether my prediction is higher than 20%.

It would sure be a bummer to draw a tag on the 25th & then the season is halted by a judge on 10/29.

If I draw a tag, I am waiting 'til the day before season to buy it.


This article provides a little information....I think I will put odds at 10%.

https://empowerwisconsin.org/evers-dnr-kauls-doj-play-lawless-liberal-games/

Last edited by WIMarshRAT; 10/12/21 07:42 AM.

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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7380129
10/15/21 11:36 PM
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That article is correct. Kaul is out of control.

This latest article continues to show Kaul is doing a lackluster job of providing legal counsel for the NRB.

https://www.weau.com/2021/10/15/board-consider-hiring-outside-attorneys-wolf-lawsuits/

What a cluster


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7382559
10/19/21 09:38 AM
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Speaking of inadequate the WDNR would not respond to questions from the media so we get total one sided reporting by the media. Just what the WDNR wants. This link is to a news report on the lawsuits.
https://www.weau.com/2021/10/19/ojibwe-tribes-conservationists-suing-state-over-november-wolf-hunt/

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7384616
10/21/21 12:34 PM
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FYI, the WTA is absent from today's Wolf Management Plan Committee meeting. Only 2 stakeholder groups are absent unexcused and trappers are one of them. Perhaps they showed up after roll call, but I didn't hear that, and don't think so.
You can watch live this afternoon, the meetings been going since 9am:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=runptFFrIKg

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7384618
10/21/21 12:39 PM
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Application edits are no longer available, so if you were thinking of changing your choice, you're out of luck.

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7384729
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This case is being argued in court right now

Dane County Case Number 2021CV002103 Great Lakes Wildlife Alliance et al vs. Wisconsin Natural Resources Board et al

You can watch live on the link below, I'm imagine it's getting pretty close to a decision:

https://iframe.dacast.com/live/4daf...632/097bce00-4870-e42b-81f3-19b82da95266

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7384790
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Ruling to come tomorrow, set for 3:30 pm. Judge is Evers appointee, DNR appears to have the JV squad on council, I'll be honest, it ain't looking good. Fingers crossed.

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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7385122
10/22/21 05:54 AM
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Maybe the ruling can be overturned on appeal and we can have another Feb wolf hunt dominated by dogs.


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7385173
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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: WIMarshRAT] #7385180
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Originally Posted by WIMarshRAT
Maybe the ruling can be overturned on appeal and we can have another Feb wolf hunt dominated by dogs.

DNR made that argument yesterday, told the judge that is a very real possibility if he orders an injunction. DNR however, never brought up the fact that the 130 quota is, according to state scientists, an ultra conservative harvest as a counterpoint to plaintiffs clim that wolves will go extinct if the hunt occurs. That is their point that they say requires the court intervene with an injunction to halt the hunt.

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: Osky] #7385202
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Originally Posted by Osky
You cheese hat guys just don't understand the problem! What you REALLY need to do is come and get Minnesota wolves. Lots an lots of Minnesota Wolves so they overtake your wolves. Take extras to be sure.
You see Minnesota wolves only eat mice and rabbits and animals that are sick or wounded and won't live anyway. Just ask our DNR guys and democrat legislators, animal experts all. In fact I bet the Minnesota wolves will hold classes for the Wisconsin wolves that stick around to properly teach them what to eat.
Problem solved. Anything else we can help you with?
Osky

Excellent idea


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7385336
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And when that happens, maybe they will bump it back up to 300 like the NRB approved. And by not being active, the WTA will miss out on another harvest. LOL

Lets not forget that the quota of 200 last year was an ultra conservative quota. We harvested 218. 17 of the 18 wolves that exceeded quota came from zone 6 where we do not want nor try to count wolves. It has only marginal wolf habitat and includes 1/3 of state that does zero tracking.

Zone 1 which is in the heart of wolf habitat didn't even hit quota so it was spitting out dispersal wolves all over the place. Vast majority of those were not even in the population model to begin with so how can they be subtracted from it? Nevermind Michigan and MN didnt hold seasons so that just allowed more dispersal from those states. Did we forget how we got wolves here in the first place?


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7385604
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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7385615
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Its gonna get ugly.


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I canít get the link to work but take it that the season is on holdÖ? I canít imagine that considering itís in statute that season needs to happen.

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7385637
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A judge on Friday halted Wisconsinís fall wolf season two weeks before hunters were set to take to the woods, siding with wildlife advocacy groups who argued that holding the hunt would be unconstitutional.

Dane County Circuit Judge Jacob Frost issued a temporary injunction halting the season, which was set to begin Nov. 6. The order comes as part of a lawsuit that a coalition of wildlife advocacy groups filed in August seeking to stop the hunt and invalidate a state law authorizing annual seasons.

Among other things, the coalition argued that the season is illegal because the Department of Natural Resources hasnít updated its regulations setting up season parameters and has been relying on an emergency rule put in place shortly after then-Gov. Scott Walker signed a law in 2012 authorizing annual seasons.

Frost said the law creating the wolf season is constitutional on its face, but that the DNR failed to create permanent regulations enacting it. The law gives the DNR great leeway in setting kill limits, hunting zone hours and the number of licenses making it all the more important that the department following the regulatory process to ensure it doesnít violate the separation of powers between the legislative and executive branches, Frost said.

ďIím not overruling the wolf hunt law. In fact, Iím saying it has to be enforced as it was written and intended,Ē Frost said. ďThe DNR is currently not following the law or following the constitution. Its decisions are built on a faulty basis, meaning they canít stand, either.Ē

Hunters, farmers and conservationists have been sparring for years over how to handle wolves in Wisconsin. Farmers insist that the animals are destroying their crops and that killing them is the only way to control them. Conservationists and wildlife advocates insist the wolf population is too fragile to support hunting and that the animals are too beautiful to destroy.

The state held fall wolf seasons in 2012, 2013 and 2014 before a federal judge placed the animal back on the endangered species list.

The Trump administration removed them from the list last year and the decision became final in January, triggering a hunting season in Wisconsin..

The DNR was preparing to launch a November season, but Kansas-based hunting group Hunter Nation won a court-order forcing the agency to hold a season in February. The group argued that the Biden administration could restore federal protections for wolves at any moment, robbing hunters of the chance to kill the animals.

The DNR scrambled to put together a season, setting the kill limit at 119 wolves. Hunters quickly blew past the limit, killing 218 wolves in just four days. The latest DNR estimates put the wolf population in Wisconsin at about 1,000.

Conservationists decried the season as a massacre. They urged the DNR policy board to cancel the fall season to protect whatís left of the population. Conservatives on the board brushed those concerns aside, though. During a meeting in August, they authorized the fall hunting season and set the kill limit at 300 wolves, prompting the lawsuit from the wildlife advocacy groups as well as a federal lawsuit from a half-dozen Chippewa tribes. The Chippewa consider the wolf sacred.

Earlier this month, the DNR, which is controlled by Democratic Gov. Tony Evers, took the unprecedented step of unilaterally reducing the kill limit to 130 wolves, openly defying the board.

The Chippewa have claimed 56 of those animals per treaty rights that allow them to claim 50% of quotas in northern Wisconsinís ceded territory ó land the tribes gave the government in the 1800s. The Chippewa consider the wolf sacred and refuse to hunt it, which means that if the season happens the working quota for state-licensed hunters will be 74 wolves.

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