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Re: When is this shortage going to end??? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7383725
10/20/21 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by stinkypete
Mandate a work requirement for people over 18 yrs of age. If you are not retired or disabled. You are required to work. Enforce that. Problem solved. Debt solved. Shortage solved. Economy back on track in 1yr. I would bet on that


Don't we have enough mandates already?



Yep, that's why there's no truck drivers to move the goods sitting beside the shipyards.

Re: When is this shortage going to end??? [Re: Canvasback2] #7383730
10/20/21 01:05 PM
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biden order the shipyards to work 24/7 unloading ships so the chinese would get their ships back sooner....now the good's sit in the yards instead of on the ships..he did nothing to help the real problem....he helped the chinks.


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Re: When is this shortage going to end??? [Re: Marty] #7383732
10/20/21 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Marty
hayday is onto something....^^.

It really a bizzarro world. Up is down and bad is good.....never have we seen large crowds chant f--- the potus. Then on the other side they will cancel you for being a white conservative..go thru your past back 50 years looking for one sentence that they can use..

Fear is their weapon and when there is no fuel/food people will be very afraid. Plus any 'event' will add to the panic/fear....natural or manmade.....like a grid down. Imagine empty food shelves, no gas and a grid down in the dead of winter...they are working on the first two, although we had achieved energy independence but that was bad, and they can cancel the grid anytime they want too.


We can put a hurt on the grid ourselves.


-Goofy-
Re: When is this shortage going to end??? [Re: Canvasback2] #7383734
10/20/21 01:07 PM
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Re: When is this shortage going to end??? [Re: Marty] #7383754
10/20/21 01:34 PM
10/20/21 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Marty
People who knew this a year ago were just insightful, yet today many folks will still not listen to what they are now saying....and many people still think everything is going to be fine, just look at the is America done thread.

One thing is for sure those in power now will not allow any loss in 2022, they will make sure they gain by hook or by crook. That is why they are transporting illegals in the middle of the night all over the USA on your dime.....and will support them on your dime for years to come...

They need a crisis to instill fear and dependence so they can implement the new green deal and do away with internal combustion engines. biden made an exec order that by 2030 50% of vehicles made would be electric.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/biden-sign-order-50-us-auto-sales-electric-2030/


That's where you lose me. How would crashing the grid and eliminating electric power work towards the goal of forcing people to buy cars that run on... electric power?


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Re: When is this shortage going to end??? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7383757
10/20/21 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by Marty
People who knew this a year ago were just insightful, yet today many folks will still not listen to what they are now saying....and many people still think everything is going to be fine, just look at the is America done thread.

One thing is for sure those in power now will not allow any loss in 2022, they will make sure they gain by hook or by crook. That is why they are transporting illegals in the middle of the night all over the USA on your dime.....and will support them on your dime for years to come...

They need a crisis to instill fear and dependence so they can implement the new green deal and do away with internal combustion engines. biden made an exec order that by 2030 50% of vehicles made would be electric.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/biden-sign-order-50-us-auto-sales-electric-2030/


That's where you lose me. How would crashing the grid and eliminating electric power work towards the goal of forcing people to buy cars that run on... electric power?


I think he is talking about creating fear to gain compliance.


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Re: When is this shortage going to end??? [Re: Canvasback2] #7383760
10/20/21 01:39 PM
10/20/21 01:39 PM
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I mean, I get that, but after the grid came back on the last thing I would want to do is run out and buy an electric car, lol.


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Re: When is this shortage going to end??? [Re: Lazarus] #7383767
10/20/21 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Lazarus
Build Back Lower Expectations!!!

“You will own nothing and be happy.”


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Re: When is this shortage going to end??? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7383773
10/20/21 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by Marty
People who knew this a year ago were just insightful, yet today many folks will still not listen to what they are now saying....and many people still think everything is going to be fine, just look at the is America done thread.

One thing is for sure those in power now will not allow any loss in 2022, they will make sure they gain by hook or by crook. That is why they are transporting illegals in the middle of the night all over the USA on your dime.....and will support them on your dime for years to come...

They need a crisis to instill fear and dependence so they can implement the new green deal and do away with internal combustion engines. biden made an exec order that by 2030 50% of vehicles made would be electric.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/biden-sign-order-50-us-auto-sales-electric-2030/


That's where you lose me. How would crashing the grid and eliminating electric power work towards the goal of forcing people to buy cars that run on... electric power?


Create fear, then dependence, then compliance and then turn things back on....but I never said 100% that the grid would go down I said imagine if it did...plus they do not want to do away with electricity they want to do away with fossil fuel power...coal/gas/diesel/gasoline...and if it is mandated that 1/2 of vehicles made are electric there will be a shortage of non electric new vehicles. I wonder if electric vehicle manufacturing right now is effected the same as non electric vehicles by the chip shortage? Anyway, these folks have a grip on power and will not let that go plus they have major changes in mind and they have a track record of using civil crisis to achieve their objectives (floyd violence/riots are an example of that).


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Re: When is this shortage going to end??? [Re: Marty] #7383789
10/20/21 02:10 PM
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I have a hard time understanding those that feel there is more profit in more production, hiring more labor and driving more miles etc. Sure expanding a profitable business makes good sense, but in reality nothing is better for profit then a higher price per item. Production does not come cheap but price is free to get, so if I were running a business that makes me a good profit due to shortage in supply or numbers with less labor, I would be hesitant to expand to add more supply. We read post after post on here where we won't trap coons because they are not profitable enough to trap. The same goes for any business where there are substantial production and labor costs.
Sure is a lot more profit in selling 200 coons at $20 each then 800 coons at $5 each and way less, time, gas, labor and other ancillary costs. We seem to understand when and why to trap and not to trap but don't understand that other businesses have very similar financial patterns as well, be that $4,000 in coon hides or 40 billion in oil or whatever.

Bryce

Re: When is this shortage going to end??? [Re: Marty] #7383796
10/20/21 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Marty
hayday is onto something....^^.

It really a bizzarro world. Up is down and bad is good.....never have we seen large crowds chant f--- the potus. Then on the other side they will cancel you for being a white conservative..go thru your past back 50 years looking for one sentence that they can use..

Fear is their weapon and when there is no fuel/food people will be very afraid. Plus any 'event' will add to the panic/fear....natural or manmade.....like a grid down. Imagine empty food shelves, no gas and a grid down in the dead of winter...they are working on the first two, although we had achieved energy independence but that was bad, and they can cancel the grid anytime they want too.


I find it fascinating that people just aren't happy.
Capitalists clamor for communism
Communists labor towards capitalism

It's like an episode of "As the World Turns."

Blessings,
Mark

Re: When is this shortage going to end??? [Re: bblwi] #7383801
10/20/21 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bblwi
I have a hard time understanding those that feel there is more profit in more production, hiring more labor and driving more miles etc. Sure expanding a profitable business makes good sense, but in reality nothing is better for profit then a higher price per item. Production does not come cheap but price is free to get, so if I were running a business that makes me a good profit due to shortage in supply or numbers with less labor, I would be hesitant to expand to add more supply. We read post after post on here where we won't trap coons because they are not profitable enough to trap. The same goes for any business where there are substantial production and labor costs.
Sure is a lot more profit in selling 200 coons at $20 each then 800 coons at $5 each and way less, time, gas, labor and other ancillary costs. We seem to understand when and why to trap and not to trap but don't understand that other businesses have very similar financial patterns as well, be that $4,000 in coon hides or 40 billion in oil or whatever.

Bryce
well stated.


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Re: When is this shortage going to end??? [Re: Canvasback2] #7383831
10/20/21 02:58 PM
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Re: When is this shortage going to end??? [Re: Canvasback2] #7383856
10/20/21 03:49 PM
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Let's at least hope ammo manufacturers keep making ammo. Surely some companies will manage to keep the doors open.


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Re: When is this shortage going to end??? [Re: Canvasback2] #7383875
10/20/21 04:28 PM
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For now, I'm seeing all these shortages as being caused by gross incompetence on the part of those running the Gubmint as opposed to anything sinister. Paying people more to sit at home doing nothing while jobs doing something productive go begging.....is just plain idiotic. And it seems they are bent on doubling down on stupid by passing yet another stimulus bill.

But if it does turn out to be sinister..........and this is all on purpose.......that extra ammo is going to come in handy.

Re: When is this shortage going to end??? [Re: Canvasback2] #7383904
10/20/21 05:02 PM
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I was in a mountain tourist town today for a meeting. We went to four restaurants, all closed. The fifth was a coffee shop with a few deli sandwiches. This is the height of the tourist season. The town was packed but restaurants were closed. Go figure.

Re: When is this shortage going to end??? [Re: charles] #7384254
10/21/21 12:10 AM
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Yes that would be something to have millions of firearms on hand now ammo to use. One could always run around with your firearm and go "bang", "bang" like we did when we were kids. It would sure save on a lot of cleaning products, gun oil etc. If it would ever come to that, we would all quickly learn or see where the allotments would go or would not go. I am sure military and security would win the day in those situations.
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Re: When is this shortage going to end??? [Re: Canvasback2] #7384255
10/21/21 12:16 AM
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Re: When is this shortage going to end??? [Re: Canvasback2] #7384324
10/21/21 07:06 AM
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Not sure when it ends but it’s easy to see what is happening. The current mandates cause shortages of labor and that causes shortages in supplies. This allows big brother to step in and grab more power. Doesn’t matter if it’s nurses in NY or food on he self in KS.


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Re: When is this shortage going to end??? [Re: Canvasback2] #7384329
10/21/21 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by run
Originally Posted by bblwi
I have a hard time understanding those that feel there is more profit in more production, hiring more labor and driving more miles etc. Sure expanding a profitable business makes good sense, but in reality nothing is better for profit then a higher price per item. Production does not come cheap but price is free to get, so if I were running a business that makes me a good profit due to shortage in supply or numbers with less labor, I would be hesitant to expand to add more supply. We read post after post on here where we won't trap coons because they are not profitable enough to trap. The same goes for any business where there are substantial production and labor costs.
Sure is a lot more profit in selling 200 coons at $20 each then 800 coons at $5 each and way less, time, gas, labor and other ancillary costs. We seem to understand when and why to trap and not to trap but don't understand that other businesses have very similar financial patterns as well, be that $4,000 in coon hides or 40 billion in oil or whatever.

Bryce
well stated.


Well stated? I disagree.

The market will always win out or at least it should. If a business has their prices too high from an induced shortage eventually someone will find a way to do it cheaper, undercut your prices and put you out of business. At least that is how it should work, now when we are in bizarre land and everyone is bailed out either directly or indirectly all bets are off.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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