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DP trap stakes #7383553
10/20/21 09:50 AM
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Im going to weld 3/8 rebar trap stakes. Question is how long to make them? I will be in some sandy soil and clay at times

Re: DP trap stakes [Re: Tooltime] #7383569
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18 because I will NOT single stake a DP. Especially around creeks.

Re: DP trap stakes [Re: Tooltime] #7383596
10/20/21 10:33 AM
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I once bought some traps with stakes welded to the chains but I changed them almost immediately. A weld is rigid and I like having a swivel there for obvious reasons.


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Re: DP trap stakes [Re: Tooltime] #7383598
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I use 18" stakes for DP traps but usually in black loam or heavy clay.
Actually I prefer to use Berkshires with twisted 20ga. Wire


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Re: DP trap stakes [Re: Tooltime] #7383693
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I use 24" 3/8" rebar. Just be sure they can't climb a tree and pull the stake. 1/2" nuts make good tops. I do not like T tops as they tangle and spin too easily.

Re: DP trap stakes [Re: ~ADC~] #7383695
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
I use 24" 3/8" rebar. Just be sure they can't climb a tree and pull the stake. 1/2" nuts make good tops. I do not like T tops as they tangle and spin too easily.

Or the T pops off

Re: DP trap stakes [Re: Tooltime] #7383703
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1/2 -13 nuts make good stops

if you don't have a welder you can just slip them over the rebar and beat them down not had any come off

16 or 18 inches and I double stake them , soil here is very sandy

I opened up the claw on a eastwing framing hammer with a grinder to slip around the 3/8 rebar out near the end I can still pull nails but it pulls stakes very well and drives them well

leave about 1/4 inch of rebar above the nut before you hammer the nut down , the rebar mushrooms over the nut and it isn't going to come off. weld would be nice I just didn't have one


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Re: DP trap stakes [Re: Tooltime] #7383850
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I would use 1/2 rod, 3/8 is not good enough ,u don't want coon pull stakes , I use 2 ft long in 1/2 rod or earth anchors on dps , in sandbar in late season or kinda a island in creek I used 30 in t bar I'm 1/2 rod, I only use 3/8 rerod on land connibears in frozen ground or occasionally in thaw ground,, usally use earth anchors on 220 s but sometime 3/8 stake , I wouldn't feel safe with 3/8 rod in 18 in long in lot soil , definateky not in sand or anything other clay would I use 3/8 , pull stakes by coon, we have big coon here maybe u have dinks

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Re: DP trap stakes [Re: coonman220] #7383853
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Originally Posted by coonman220
I would use 1/2 rod, 3/8 is not good enough ,u don't want coon pull stakes , I use 2 ft long in 1/2 rod or earth anchors on dps , in sandbar in late season or kinda a island in creek I used 30 in t bar I'm 1/2 rod, I only use 3/8 rerod on land connibears in frozen ground or occasionally in thaw ground,, usally use earth anchors on 220 s but sometime 3/8 stake , I wouldn't feel safe with 3/8 rod in 18 in long in lot soil , definateky not in sand or anything other clay would I use 3/8 , pull stakes by coon, we have big coon here maybe u have dinks



how about two 18 inch 3/8 with a double stake swivel , you will give yourself a hernia trying to pull that of even sandy river side soil on a sand bar I would reach for the longer stakes two 24s


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Re: DP trap stakes [Re: Tooltime] #7383859
10/20/21 03:53 PM
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I like earth anchors so you don't have to haul rebar around. Fender washers hold great even in mucky mud and sand.


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Re: DP trap stakes [Re: Tooltime] #7383864
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3/8 rebar weighs .376 pounds per foot

1/2 inch rebar weighs .670 pounds per foot

two 3/8 by 18 inch stakes weigh 1 1/8 pounds

one 24 inch 1/2 rebar stake weights 1 1/3 pounds

I just went out in my garden where there is no vegetation and the soil is so loose I just pushed the two 18 inch stakes in to a cross stake swivel I put my scale on and pulled up I was at 100 pounds before is started to move any

if you have firmer ground or any vegetation holding the soil it is going to go well more than 100 pounds strait up lift that is going to have to be one huge coon


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Re: DP trap stakes [Re: Gary Benson] #7383866
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A lot of areas I set DPs have more moisture in the soil, so I cross stake two 3/8 inch by 16-18 inch stakes with a nut on the end. I use a vice grips to grip the stake and twist out when pulling. I have never had any stake even moved or ever dug around.

Bryce

Re: DP trap stakes [Re: Tooltime] #7383873
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I have had coon pull 2 an on cpl occasions a 30 inch long 1/2 rod out deeper water in sand , I cross stake if any trouble, this was foothold on drowner, I have limited use for 3/8, sone t bar for 160 s on kb stands or few land 220 s a long 3/8 t bar shove in good or nutthead 3/8 in frozen ground to anchor 220, I rarely use 3/8 for top end stakes on drowners, mostly 14-16-18 inch top end stakes on sliders , 3/8 to lite duty , I seen some coons what left them on fence that pull snare stake hook to them that some vendor was sell , someone set out snares on 3/8 or real short rod hook to snare an coon pull an perish on fence , found remains it , more once

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Re: DP trap stakes [Re: Tooltime] #7383884
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I made them 24 long. Can always cut them down later if needed. Im surprised how many people cross stake coon traps.

JT

Re: DP trap stakes [Re: Tooltime] #7383890
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Originally Posted by Tooltime
I made them 24 long. Can always cut them down later if needed. Im surprised how many people cross stake coon traps.

JT


cheap insurance

especially if your trapping a place where you can push the stakes in without getting out the hammer


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Re: DP trap stakes [Re: Tooltime] #7383891
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Originally Posted by Tooltime
I made them 24 long. Can always cut them down later if needed. Im surprised how many people cross stake coon traps.

JT


Yeah me too. I use one 1/2in t bar 24 inches through the swivel in most situations. Unless it goes in too easy then 24in pogo but that is rare.


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Re: DP trap stakes [Re: SNIPERB🦝] #7383947
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Originally Posted by SNIPERB🦝
Originally Posted by ~ADC~
I use 24" 3/8" rebar. Just be sure they can't climb a tree and pull the stake. 1/2" nuts make good tops. I do not like T tops as they tangle and spin too easily.

Or the T pops off

LOL,,not if you know how to weld.


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Re: DP trap stakes [Re: Tooltime] #7383953
10/20/21 06:23 PM
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Perhaps , but I've bought a lot of tbars that popped on off center hits.

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Re: DP trap stakes [Re: Tooltime] #7384014
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Just put some cable on them with a loop at the end, wrap around a tree and feed it through the loop. Its a lot faster than staking and I've never lost a trap or animal

Re: DP trap stakes [Re: Wild_WI] #7384015
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Originally Posted by Wild_WI
Just put some cable on them with a loop at the end, wrap around a tree and feed it through the loop. Its a lot faster than staking and I've never lost a trap or animal


That would probably work if you had trees. Or at least had them where the coon trail is.

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