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Re: Russia [Re: Chancey] #7384472
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I once read somewhere that Putin is the richest man in the world when you add up his assets. Proof that communism works for people like him and creates two classes of people: the very rich and the very poor.


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I visited Russia (Moscow region) for extended stays around 2007/2008 with plans on moving there.

Its important to remember that the Russians that have immigrated to the west for a reason and have a chip on their shoulder regarding the Russian economy and politics.

I've found the average Russian to be similar to the average American. Can complain about anything but very patriotic. In the urban areas, the infrastructure I would say is better than here. The rural areas are a completely different story, its like a 3rd world country. The rural communities were propped up during the soviet days and now without that artificial support, they are slowly being abandoned.

Russia does have a homesteading program for the far east. Also in the smaller communities, you can purchase an apartment for about a $1,000. If that appeals to you, go get it.

Re: Russia [Re: Trapper7] #7384475
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
I once read somewhere that Putin is the richest man in the world when you add up his assets. Proof that communism works for people like him and creates two classes of people: the very rich and the very poor.


Pretty sure Russia hasn't been communist for a while now.

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Originally Posted by Trapper7
I once read somewhere that Putin is the richest man in the world when you add up his assets. Proof that communism works for people like him and creates two classes of people: the very rich and the very poor.

Putin is a capitalist...

But yeah.....Russia has its fair share of oligarchs. And most of them keep their money in London.

Re: Russia [Re: Chancey] #7384477
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I study sometimes with a Christian man from Russia. I've never asked Paul about Putin. I plan to.

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Re: Russia [Re: Chancey] #7384482
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Mark, in my earlier posts I don't want you to think I'm saying that Putin is a Christian (maybe he is??), but he does seem to realize that Christian principles work for creating a better society.


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Re: Russia [Re: waggler] #7384487
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Originally Posted by waggler
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Mark, in my earlier posts I don't want you to think I'm saying that Putin is a Christian (maybe he is??), but he does seem to realize that Christian principles work for creating a better society.

One thing that Putin was very conscious about 20 years ago was the importance of the Orthodox church to the national identity. He might not be the best Christian but he does understand the unifying effect that a national church can have. He has done similarly with Islam in the central republics. He wants strong communities.

Re: Russia [Re: yotetrapper30] #7384492
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Originally Posted by James
On his last bunch, when one guy finally did shoot an impala, he took his shirt off and posed next to the animal.


Can we make this an American tradition? LOL

I'll do it if u will lol

Re: Russia [Re: Gulo] #7384494
10/21/21 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Gulo
My perspective on Russia and Russians. I'll try to keep it short. I lived in the Russian Far East in 1993 and 1994, went back and forth a couple times up until 2001 (hunting and trapping and visiting my In-laws).

1. We get our information concerning Russia from the same "news" outlets that we know have an agenda. They don't report the news, they "make" the news with their commentary. Why would we expect anything truthful about Russia when we know they won't give us the truth about our own country?

2. Overall, my impressions are that European Russia and Asian Russia are two different places, similar to our east and west coasts compared to the heartland. Very different philosophically, culturally, and historically.

3. Communism/socialism for nearly 100 years took away the people's incentive to work. With socialism, anyone that actually works, is ostracized by others, and must go down to the lowest common denominator to "fit in". You get paid the same (virtually nothing) whether you work or not.

4. Far Eastern Russia, Siberia, the people are generally very intelligent and resourceful (I don't know about European Russians), but their form of government has taken away all incentive (much like the US is doing today).

5. Putin has been good for the country. I'm sure this statement will get a lot of argument. But, generally, your information is from our MSN that we know is bogus. He's been in power for decades. He gets the vast majority of the votes at their elections, which are probably more secure and above-board than our own elections. From what I saw living in Russia and, for all practical purposes, being a Russian, was that most people really liked Putin and what he was doing to bring them into the modern world (toward capitalism) was very good.

6. I see us constantly headed toward socialism, while Putin is going the opposite direction, toward capitalism. To me, very disappointing and disturbing for us, but very exciting for the Russians.

7. On the other hand, I'm still very glad to be an American, but that is changing with every passing day as I see the madness and utter stupidity in our political arena.

Jack



Well written, Jack, on every point . Thank you for your info, from experience. And I feel just as you do , about the state of our wonderful country . Mark Levin's book, American Marxism, is very revealing , but sobering as well. I have an acquaintance who lives in Western Russia , Yana Danlovik , who sculpts resin model horses and sells them internationally. I have bought two of them to paint , from her. She is online freely, and makes decent income for herself. She goes to shows, and has a real horse that she loves to ride. Nice home in the country , from the photos I have seen . She seems happy, with her man and their place. There are several gals in the art group I am part of, who also live in Russia , all of them selling their art internationally and online freely. I have found that interesting, and am happy for them.

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Originally Posted by Sharon


Well written, Jack, on every point . Thank you for your info, from experience. And I feel just as you do , about the state of our wonderful country . Mark Levin's book, American Marxism, is very revealing , but sobering as well. I have an acquaintance who lives in Western Russia , Yana Danlovik , who sculpts resin model horses and sells them internationally. I have bought two of them to paint , from her. She is online freely, and makes decent income for herself. She goes to shows, and has a real horse that she loves to ride. Nice home in the country , from the photos I have seen . She seems happy, with her man and their place. There are several gals in the art group I am part of, who also live in Russia , all of them selling their art internationally and online freely. I have found that interesting, and am happy for them.

Here's some photos of the horses we were working around. These were bred for harness racing.

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Re: Russia [Re: yotetrapper30] #7384506
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by Trapper7
I once read somewhere that Putin is the richest man in the world when you add up his assets. Proof that communism works for people like him and creates two classes of people: the very rich and the very poor.


Pretty sure Russia hasn't been communist for a while now.

"While the trappings of communism no longer remains, the effects of the ideology and nature of power politics in Russia have a strong continuity with it's past."


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Re: Russia [Re: Chancey] #7384516
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Itís amazing how 9 months of the Biden administration causes people to think Putinís Russia is better. Bidenís world is only for 4 years. Putinís is for10 years or so. Just think how anyone that runs against Putin ends up! Or is that fake news also!


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Thank you for those photos, PR. I am always keenly interested at the gear riders use from their world area. Russia has some wonderful horse breeds , and the people have good history of loving to ride.

Re: Russia [Re: Chancey] #7384548
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I believe that this fellow moved from the eu to russia and he has some interesting videos with stuff like backwoods camping using surplus tracked vehicles....seems to be no end to the lands he has access to.

https://www.youtube.com/c/SurvivalRussia


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Re: Russia [Re: Boco] #7384555
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LOL, a ďbunch of wusses,Ē thatís what Napoleon and Hitler thought.

The french and germans(more wusses) walked all over russia-until winter did them in.
Canucks love winter.


yeah, the Nazis surprise attack walked all over Russian peasants and farmland and then they came to Stalingrad. Must be the Russians love winter also ?

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As I work in my office I am watching congressional hearings on either News Max or One American News LIVE. With the subject of this thread it makes me wonder if there is open hearings in Russia like we have here?

I have an acquaintance that I use for upholstery repaid thatís from Moldova. He told me that his mother is still there. She was amazed that in America there are clothes dryers and I am sure there was more things she was amazed about.We might just be heading towards inability to have necessities.We currently have the freedom to choose but for how long!


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Where can I watch the hearing on the stolen election? biden never got 81 million legitimate votes...he is a fraud/disgrace.


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Donít know but these hearings are on the FBI being at school board meetings!

Elections have consequences!!!

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We are given liberty by the founding documents which is quite different than freedom. Much deeper meaning.
The nation was founded on individual "Liberties," being God given and not from man.
Ben Franklin was called a Deist by many but when you read his writings, he's so orthodox Christian in his thinking, I don't know godless historians slap a Deist label on him.

Today, we as a people group wait for the next edict from JB, SCOTUS, Fauci, USHOR, or similar "man" to allow us freedom.
When did it change from the Almighty to WDC is the question?
Slow drip, drip, drip.

And here we are.
Less and less liberties each passing year.

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The lack of the belief in God and his word has brought us to this point!


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