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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7387167
10/24/21 04:37 PM
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Long way from WA but we have been tagging for years? …..


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7387195
10/24/21 05:19 PM
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It has 2 small metal tags one in each ear.

Thank y'all for trying to help unravel this mystery. I appreciate it alot.


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7387265
10/24/21 06:56 PM
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Thank you Cathryn - location passed along to the biologist I am in touch with. Good enough for purposes of helping narrowing down original capture information.

Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7387285
10/24/21 07:23 PM
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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7387424
10/24/21 09:40 PM
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That is really close to where I trapped Marten in the 1970’s in Colorado. There were lots of them there and in not your typical habitat, too.


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: Kelly] #7387425
10/24/21 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelly
That is really close to where I trapped Marten in the 1970’s in Colorado. There were lots of them there and in not your typical habitat, too.

How so?


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7387431
10/24/21 09:47 PM
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My Son Bridger caught one north of Pinedale near the Green River also years ago.


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7387606
10/25/21 08:25 AM
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He said he caught it hog park ...western side of the great divide near steamboat Springs
500 yards off the Colorado border
He takes the road from encampment sown there. Doesn't know the road number. Will check today


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: Kelly] #7387608
10/25/21 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Kelly
That is really close to where I trapped Marten in the 1970’s in Colorado. There were lots of them there and in not your typical habitat, too.



Hes trapped Wyoming for 32 yrs straight
He knows what typical marten habitat is?

He has harvested hundreds of marten.

How many years did you trap Wyoming?


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: Gary Benson] #7387609
10/25/21 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
I have visually seen marten on Snowy Range just a few miles up the mountain west of Centennial Wyoming. Tom Krause used to trap marten on Snowy Range.

He trapped near Duboise


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7387660
10/25/21 09:42 AM
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Ok homing in on a study by USFS that ended about 12 years ago in that general area. Could take a while to find original data. This could be a very old marten. They have been documented to live at least 14 1/2 yrs old in the wild but that is rare.

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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7387690
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Interesting!


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7387703
10/25/21 10:53 AM
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Need the skull and teeth to do age. 12 is an extremely old age for marten.
I suppose you could say there is "typical" marten habitat but they can be regularly found in non typical habitat. Especially when their numbers are high.

Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7387719
10/25/21 11:39 AM
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We've seen numerous marten in the Snowies while elk hunting.
I'll reach out to some contacts as well here in Laramie.

By the way Buskirk was one of the spouses' professors at UW, great guy !

Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7387802
10/25/21 01:54 PM
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December Marten here on the Colorado/Wyoming border will grade semi at the auctions, I've had a few (very few) grade heavy. In October they most likely are still considered lights, or Western. Big price difference. Today in the Park Range, just below Hog Park in Wyoming we have more marten than I've ever seen in 35 years.

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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7387847
10/25/21 03:27 PM
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He doesn't start trapping marten till oct 15th. Waiting 2 weeks has seriously decreased his section. 3 numbers


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7387848
10/25/21 03:29 PM
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Here is a pic of the habitat where he caught the marten.
Taken thia morning.
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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7387853
10/25/21 03:33 PM
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If I can get thw tooth or carcass where do I send it for aging?

To whom? Hes really interested to find out its history


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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7387862
10/25/21 03:44 PM
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It may already be aged from original capture. First premolar (immediately behind the lower canine tooth) is used for that. A very small tooth - if it is missing from behind one of the lower canines then chances are it was aged at original capture.

Standby and we see what Buskirk digs out. Jerry might want to hold unto the skull thought just in case it was not aged at original capture. Buskirk can probably arrange for that as they are doing that sort of thing all the time.

To all: with regard to when to trap marten we moved out season years ago to Nov. 1 from Oct. 15. Big difference in average grading results w a lot more grading heavy after Oct. 31. We took the idea that the marten are not going anywhere, and if you are not afraid to push a bit of snow, then Nov.1 will serve you better w regard to return for what you put into it. Can not speak to priming dates other areas but can also say that white leather does not necessarily equal heavy grade. Heavy grade follows whitening of the leather but is not hand in hand right away.

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Re: Marten study in Colorado or Wyoming? [Re: cathryn] #7387863
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These guys have been doing it for a long time Cathryn.

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