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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388023
10/25/21 07:14 PM
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Snipers have to use the wind to their advantage for one thing. And the deer hasn't been run to death when shot by a sniper.


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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388024
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When done right, some of the most fun you can have in the woods. It's like rabbit hunting on a larger scale.


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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388026
10/25/21 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Snipers have to use the wind to their advantage for one thing. And the deer hasn't been run to death when shot by a sniper.

Use beagles instead of walkers and they want be ran to death.


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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388027
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Are dogs allowed to run deer on public land in Arkansas or just private lands?


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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388031
10/25/21 07:21 PM
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Don't know about Arkansas but here in MS it's both. Public land is covered up with deer dog hunters during dog season. There are also deer seasons where dogs are not allowed.


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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388032
10/25/21 07:22 PM
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You're ok with them using dogs to hunt other animals but not deer? What so special about deer? Just long legged rats, any legal means of take is fine by me. A dead deer don't run out in front of a family's car.

Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388039
10/25/21 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Snipers have to use the wind to their advantage for one thing. And the deer hasn't been run to death when shot by a sniper.


Obvious you've never witnessed a deer chase. Run to catch is just a phrase meaning the dog wants to catch, never seen it done and don't ever expect to. Deer got as many tricks to throw a dog as a ridge running coon does.

Matter of fact I've seen studies of deer run by dogs safely back in their beds within 24 hours.

Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388041
10/25/21 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Are dogs allowed to run deer on public land in Arkansas or just private lands?

Gary dogs aren't allowed in all hunting zones in Arkansas so I figure the same for public ground.


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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388049
10/25/21 07:38 PM
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deer will usually head for water with a hound on its heels, nothing beats hunting off a hound and back in the day when our grandfathers where young boys i bet every deer hunt consisted of at least one hound

Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388051
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Thank you.


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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: J Staton] #7388054
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Yep, Beagles. When I was a kid and there was rabbits here, the rabbit hunters would swap out there Beagles, that liked to run deer and the deer hunters would give the rabbit hunters Beagles that liked rabbits.;


Originally Posted by J Staton
Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Snipers have to use the wind to their advantage for one thing. And the deer hasn't been run to death when shot by a sniper.

Use beagles instead of walkers and they want be ran to death.

Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388055
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I live in the heart of deer hound country. I grew up hunting deer with dogs. Ran off my first wife and tore up 2 good trucks hunting deer with dogs from when I was about 17 years old to my mid 20s. Had a dozen Walker hounds at my peak that would move one rapidly out of these jungle-like swamps. Those hounds and I spent a lot of time in these pineywoods. I miss it sometime but I loved it too much. It was more about the hounds than the kill.

Hunting deer with hounds is an organized and very sociable way to hunt. It is a time honored and traditional way to hunt deer in this area. Nothing wrong with venison that has been ran...thats a myth. I sold my hounds and got into bowhunting in my mid-20s. Thought Id save money....wrong.

Most of the deer dog hunting leases here are large. 10 thousand to 20 thousand contiguous acres is common size. A few clubs are almost 30 thousand acres in size. Many have 40 to 70 members...all with 4x4 pickups. All their hounds have tracking collars and the trucks have the GPS receiver with mapping. This is to keep hounds off of unwanted properties and to make retrieval of the hounds more efficient.

The deer do sometimes line out and cover some ground during the race, but most cover less than a mile...crossing private roads and clearcuts during the pursuit....which is deadly for the deer many times. Meat is split up and shared...no matter who takes the deer. Many clubs won't shoot doe deer nor spike bucks.

As a GW for the past 26 year, Ive seen some rogue deer houndsmen, but Ive also see rogue still hunters too. I will sit by the fire and socialize at any deer dog hunting camp....and enjoy these houndsmen.


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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: warrior] #7388056
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Snipers have to use the wind to their advantage for one thing. And the deer hasn't been run to death when shot by a sniper.


Obvious you've never witnessed a deer chase. Run to catch is just a phrase meaning the dog wants to catch, never seen it done and don't ever expect to. Deer got as many tricks to throw a dog as a ridge running coon does.

Matter of fact I've seen studies of deer run by dogs safely back in their beds within 24 hours.

I was overlooking a power line right of way when I witnessed a spike buck run down the center of the power line trail to turn to hit he thicket right under me. He stopped at the edge of the thicket, back tracked himself back to the trail, taking a big bound from there to head down the trail to enter the thicket on the opposite side about a 100 yards away. I could here the dogs coming. A group of young beagles led the way with the old dog bringing up the tail. Of course the young dogs came to the place where the deer had back tracked first and couldn't figure out what had happened. Then the old beagle showed up and without missing a beat followed that deer's track as if he had witnessed what that deer had done. Chase was on again with the young beagles leading the way and that old dog bringing up the tail. Memories....


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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388057
10/25/21 07:44 PM
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Thank you Swamp Wolf. Good opinion.


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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388059
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I was reading a deer hunting history of WI and I think it was outlawed here around 1905.

Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7388061
10/25/21 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
I live in the heart of deer hound country. I grew up hunting deer with dogs. Ran off my first wife and tore up 2 good trucks hunting deer with dogs from when I was about 17 years old to my mid 20s. Had a dozen Walker hounds at my peak that would move one rapidly out of these jungle-like swamps. Those hounds and I spent a lot of time in these pineywoods. I miss it sometime but I loved it too much. It was more about the hounds than the kill.

Hunting deer with hounds is an organized and very sociable way to hunt. It is a time honored and traditional way to hunt deer in this area. Nothing wrong with venison that has been ran...thats a myth. I sold my hounds and got into bowhunting in my mid-20s. Thought Id save money....wrong.

Most of the deer dog hunting leases here are large. 10 thousand to 20 thousand contiguous acres is common size. A few clubs are almost 30 thousand acres in size. Many have 40 to 70 members...all with 4x4 pickups. All their hounds have tracking collars and the trucks have the GPS receiver with mapping. This is to keep hounds off of unwanted properties and to make retrieval of the hounds more efficient.

The deer do sometimes line out and cover some ground during the race, but most cover less than a mile...crossing private roads and clearcuts during the pursuit....which is deadly for the deer many times. Meat is split up and shared...no matter who takes the deer. Many clubs won't shoot doe deer nor spike bucks.

As a GW for the past 26 year, Ive seen some rogue deer houndsmen, but Ive also see rogue still hunters too. I will sit by the fire and socialize at any deer dog hunting camp....and enjoy these houndsmen.


I had forgot the split the meat but that was true. The meat got split into piles and drawn by lot and everyone went home with some meat.
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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388064
10/25/21 07:51 PM
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It was definitely about the dogs but also the social. Us youngsters lived for time spent with the older men. There was always someone cracking a joke or giving someone a hard time. Lots of laughter and fond memories. Many of those guys are gone now and I cherish the memories.

Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388066
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Btw....my second wife killed her first deer...a doe....while hunting with hounds with her grandfather. She says she spent most of those days deer dogging eating stale saltines and sardines she found in her Poppa's truck.

We are still together...25 years now. We've even been deer dogging with some friends of our's a few times over the years.


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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388072
10/25/21 08:09 PM
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Bunch of guys rabbit hunting deer, shooting at movement.
Sorry but there are enough crazies in the woods with just the normal stuff.

And I love killing deer. 30 years so far with no beef needed.

Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388076
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The biggest complaint I've heard is dogs can't read private property signs.


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