stuck at home recovering and watched an infomercial (I guess that should tell me something) about HECS hunting apparel...

anyone a user/believer/skeptic/...

(yes, I know folks have been killing deer, etc. without it for tens of thousands of years, but if it makes a difference, why not?)

Watched a couple of their videos showing a hunter with HECS clothing on seems like the guides d9nt have it on and are just as close. Other than their advertising videos I don't see much on them and the 9nes there are nobody seems like they are sure the behavior is changed due to the HECS. So I'd say I'm a skeptic.

I might believe their spiel if they could show instruments that can measure the electrical field they claim animals can detect, and show that it is significantly diminished when a HECS suit is worn. If they could do that, it would be in their commercials. Since they apparently cannot measure and prove the existance of the mystery electrical field, or explain how or why animals can detect it, I think HECS is a bunch of BS.

Can't beat a deer's nose. It's worthless.

Fred Bear was tough enough, he probably didn't bother wearing socks or skivvies.

Charlie

Dang!!!! And I believed the scientists when they said that fish could detect the electrical discharge from the brain
to the heart muscle of their prey. They said that was the reason why sharks often bite the sacrificial anodes on outboards motors. Electrical discharge from electrolysis.
Do the suits reduce these emissions? Do these emissions extend far enough from the body to matter? I will readily admit I don’t know. What I do know is that I have still hunted thousands of hours and have gotten within
spitting distance of several big game animals without any type of special suit. Just moving into the wind and not
moving at all when the critter is looking at me.
I do believe that it is being a little bit narrow minded to dismiss the suit manufacturer’s claims as BS
without any first hand experience. Will I order a 2XL to try? Nope I trust my knowledge of where the elk should be
depending on the time of year and the weather and my skills of moving through the habit as part of it not some pavement pounding city person that gets lost if they get out of sight of camp.

Do you think they would send me a complimentary outfit that I can field test while I'm guiding brown bear hunters?
I would really like to see what happens when I walk up-wind from a brown bear, let's say one or two hundred yards away.
I would bet a considerable sum of money that the bear would detect my presence.
I think the people at HECS have a pretty good idea what would happen also. I'm guessing they would decline my offer to test their gear.

Waggler, I think another fair question, would same bear detect you if it was 10ft. upwind of you?

the infomercial specifically mentioned being mere feet DOWNWIND...doesn't claim to eliminate scent.

You can sell a deer hunter ANYTHING

^^very gullible. I remember telling my wife there will be electric bicycles for these new age deer hunters. She laughed in disbelief.... 2 yrs later was the big craze of quiet cat bikes

Here's the question I asked the manufacturer of the HECs suit face to face. He did not have an answer for it and if you do let's hear it.

"I'll give you that animals and humans produce an electromagnetic field. It can be sensed with sophisticated electronic equipment. So there's that. However, all humans and animals have five known senses. For each of these senses there are receptors in the body which are connected to the brain through the central nervous system, and a portion of the brain is dedicated to interpret the incoming information from each of those senses: touch, taste, hearing, sight and smell. This is well known to science. So if animals or humans can detect electromagnetic fields, where are the sensory receptors and the portion of the brain dedicated to interpreting this incoming information?"

That was basically the end of the conversation.

OK, I'll go back to what I said in my earlier post. If it can be sensed with sophisticated electronic equipment, where is the data that shows the external signal is reduced by a HECS suit.

not saying yay, or nay; just throwing this out there...

https://www.bioelectricshield.com/in-the-media/foxes-prove-electrosensitivity-real

The 6th sense! We’ve all felt someone staring at us. Hecs has it figured out, turned the military down cold and decided to sell bow hunting clothes.

HECS is a worthless gimmick. I had my question asked to one of their reps on a podcast and he just diverted to something else.

Fish do not have ampullae of lorenzinni. They have a lateral line. Yet they sell HECS wetsuits with the pitch fish won't detect. Coincidentally, there is a product called shark shield which blasts electromagnetic energy to keep away sharks with the pitch it doesn't scare fish (spoiler alert, it doesn't).

My question pitched to the guy was how does a car battery pumping out juice from a large antenna not scare fish but you guys say that the human body generates enough to? Crickets....

The energy they are talking about isn't detectable at any distance you'd hunt at even if it worked, so why.

I hate when people buy into this nonsense marketing stuff.

Why would the military want it? Do US soldiers go up against armed and combative deer very often?

If I had a brown bear that close to me even if l had on one of them fancy suits i would have something other than an electro magnetic discharge in my drawers. Scent proof would not be in the ball park for certain.

If critters can detect electric fields then why would a deer walk up and stick it's nose to a hotwire/ electric fence? Or a cow or any other animal?

I have seen that infomercial for the suit, you will have a very difficult time convincing me it is nothing more than a gimmick to sucker humans into buying it