Re: Your views of the Alec Baldwin case
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Fault lies in the person hired specifically to prevent this from happening. Weapons are supposed to handed out and checked as is the ammo by this person. That is their job. No fault with Alec as I see it
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Re: Your views of the Alec Baldwin case
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So for those saying he's innocent, let's use this.....a drunk person is handed car keys drives and kills someone who is guilty? The place he got drunk, the person who gave him keys or the drunk driver?
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Re: Your views of the Alec Baldwin case
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Not Alec's fault. Don't like the guy but it's not his fault. Excuse me, but it is totally his fault. 1 All guns are loaded, always 2 Never let the muzzle cover anything you're not willing to destroy 3 Never touch the trigger until the sights are on target 4 Know thy target and what beyond it Violation of all four in my book. But, but it was said he was told cold gun. DID HE TAKE RESPONSIBILITY TO CONFIRM THAT? Guilty of gross negligence resulting in one homicide and one aggravated assault.
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Re: Your views of the Alec Baldwin case
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Alec is a producer writer and actor for the movie. Every producer safety person armorer director and anyone else who brought live ammo all need to be held accountable. Either way you paint this picture Alec is guilty. He had terrible production and safety issues many misfires etc... he should've checked the gun to see ensure it was cold. He pulled the trigger rehearsing the scene he failed basic gun safety. Don't say he doesn't know basic gun safety. He's used plenty in his movies. x2
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Re: Your views of the Alec Baldwin case
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If someone handed you a gun and said " It's empty " would you point it at someone and pull the trigger? Not at all. Immediately drop magazine rack slide, thumb open cylinder, half (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) open loading gate, cycle lever open, and if unfamiliar with manual of arms to physically open the action the visually inspect I would refuse to take the weapon until it is demonstrated to me to be "empty". Basic common sense.
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Re: Your views of the Alec Baldwin case
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Not Alec's fault. Don't like the guy but it's not his fault. Excuse me, but it is totally his fault. 1 All guns are loaded, always 2 Never let the muzzle cover anything you're not willing to destroy 3 Never touch the trigger until the sights are on target 4 Know thy target and what beyond it Violation of all four in my book. But, but it was said he was told cold gun. DID HE TAKE RESPONSIBILITY TO CONFIRM THAT? Guilty of gross negligence resulting in one homicide and one aggravated assault. I agree. Baldwin shares the responsibility. He was the final check on that gun to make sure it wasn't loaded. Don't get proud of yourself that I agree with you one time. I'm sure it's an anomaly. Jim
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Re: Your views of the Alec Baldwin case
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And I still think real guns that are going to be pointed at people have no business on a movie set. NEVER point a gun at someone except in self-defense.
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Re: Your views of the Alec Baldwin case
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what possible reason is there to use a real gun in a movie??????????????????????????????????????
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Your views of the Alec Baldwin case
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Alec baldwin is a tool . But he was doing the part he normally does. Not his fault. Now he may share the financial faults being one of the producers. I'm sure our friend James will also agree, ignorance is not a defense.
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