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old longsprings #739544
06/01/08 02:13 PM
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Alger, Michigan
furharvester11 Offline OP
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i have these old victor 1 and 1 1/2 longsprings and my uncle said he used to catch coon with them back in the day like 25 years they still snap fine do you think they would catch coon or would they pull out with no problem thanks


12-13 Season Goal/Actual
Coon:15/1
Fox:25/
Yote:30/
Muskrats:50/


Re: old longsprings [Re: furharvester11] #739549
06/01/08 02:17 PM
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No way to know how strong they are with out feeling them, but plenty of coons have been caught in then old type longsprings.

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Re: old longsprings [Re: ] #739558
06/01/08 02:35 PM
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Commerce Michigan
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I got some old Victor #1 1/2 that my grandpa gave me that are at least 30 years old and I have caught a couple of coons in them. I just put some swivels on them this year.


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Re: old longsprings [Re: deerslayer] #739597
06/01/08 03:12 PM
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i had an ole vic no 11 and put tinfoil on the pan and jus set it out on the bank wit sum crawfish oul and caught one but he climbed up a tree and pulled out.


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Re: old longsprings [Re: Coon's Nightmare] #739808
06/01/08 06:16 PM
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I've had bad luck holding big coon in single longsprings period. If that's all you have then set them, but I much prefer strong #1.5 coils. One lost coon, at todays prices, would have bought you a half dozen #1.5 coils.


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Re: old longsprings [Re: goldy] #739815
06/01/08 06:30 PM
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not in the south goldy we average 6-8$ per coon wit highs of ten or eleven


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Re: old longsprings [Re: Coon's Nightmare] #739823
06/01/08 06:39 PM
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Alger, Michigan
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alright thanks i have 1.5 coils but just got a whole bunch of these old ones from my uncle and was just wondering thanks


12-13 Season Goal/Actual
Coon:15/1
Fox:25/
Yote:30/
Muskrats:50/


Re: old longsprings [Re: furharvester11] #739958
06/01/08 08:38 PM
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i got a #11 from the 80's and it caught 4 coons last year


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Re: old longsprings [Re: Wyatt Peverley] #740307
06/01/08 11:44 PM
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Lots raccoons have been caught with #1 and #1.5 longsprings. If you doubt their strength, use them in drowning sets and don't give the raccoon anything sturdy to grab onto. If you want to convert them to a #11 or #2, try this archived thread.

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Re: old longsprings [Re: Clark] #740365
06/02/08 12:50 AM
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You can take a large diameter dowel rod (I use a broom handle) or pipe and put it in the spring and rap it with a hammer. Surprising how much that will strengthen a spring.


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Re: old longsprings [Re: Ole Hawkeye] #740408
06/02/08 03:15 AM
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Fasten the chain opposite the spring. That helps some.

Re: old longsprings [Re: ] #740518
06/02/08 08:54 AM
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Sorry Tex but have to disagree... I have strengthened HUNDREDS of longspings using that method..I use a pipe or the end of my anvil... I have #4's I've "fixed" DECADES ago..and they are PERFECTLY strong... SOME however will not "take" and remain weak no matter what. I have one modified trap that was horridly weak when I got it...I KNOW it's held 3 or 4 lions and dozens of cats and coyotes over the last 20 years... STRONG as ever. MIGHT be the way you tried to do it??? You can put a SERIOUS hurt on the spring with a pipe and hammer... might try it again and DONT be skert to SMACK it more than once..





Re: old longsprings [Re: Lynxcattrapper] #740666
06/02/08 11:31 AM
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It's worked for me more than once or I wouldn't have reccomended it. Some springs are so weak there is nothing you can do but replace them.

I used to see those inserts that you put in the springs in catalogs. I never tried them and I don't see them anymore so maybe they didn't work very well. Seemed like a good idea and always figured I would try them, but never got around to it.


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Re: old longsprings [Re: ] #740856
06/02/08 03:39 PM
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I figured I would just put a couple of wraps of wire around the spring and the helper. I wonder if they still make them?

I've thought about putting a coil spring inside a long spring to beef it up, I wonder how that would work?


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Re: old longsprings [Re: Ole Hawkeye] #741046
06/02/08 06:23 PM
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You can find the helper springs at MTP. They call them "Lightning Springs".

They will definitely spruce up those old LS but like Tex said, they are difficult to keep in there. If you can't tack weld them, I would only use them for mink/muskrat traps. I feel that a raccoon would eventually find it and rip it out if not tacked in there.

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Re: old longsprings [Re: Clark] #741064
06/02/08 06:57 PM
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Clark, wouldn't a few wraps of wire hold them in?


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Re: old longsprings [Re: Ole Hawkeye] #741072
06/02/08 07:04 PM
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The wire will work. We have around 100 #2 DLS on the coon line. Most have the helper spring incerts (victors anyway) they really help with speed and strength. I tack weld them in now but I've had some wired in for years before that. Actually on the chain end the thing that the chain goes to holds that end in pretty well.

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Re: old longsprings [Re: ] #741080
06/02/08 07:07 PM
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I'll bet JB Weld would do just as well.


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