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Cheap canning lids. #7397815
11/05/21 10:51 PM
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As most of you know, finding lids was a challenge this year. I ended up buying 100 regular mouth lids off Ebay for $20 about 2 weeks ago. Chinese lids. I canned up 32 pints of venison a few days ago. 4 jars didn't even seal. One of those even dented....how does that happen when a ring is holding it down? Since then, after cleaning the jars and labeling them, I left them on the towel on the counter so I could watch them a little while before lugging them to the shelves in the basement. 4 have popped their seal since then! I am totally P.O.'d. I should have known better than using those dang things. The company selling them is called Tantalu48. Please don't waste your time, or worse, your venison, by using these junk lids.


Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: J.Morse] #7397817
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Thanks for the Tip, no Pun intended

Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: J.Morse] #7397818
11/05/21 10:56 PM
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If you need to order more, give these ones a try. A bit spendy but been hearing nothing but rave reviews on them!

https://www.dutchmansstore.com/product/superb-regular-mouth-canning-lids-bulk-pack-of-60-usa-made


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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: J.Morse] #7397828
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Thanks Angela. Those aren't really more money if they seal and stay that way! I'm sick about losing that venison.


Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: J.Morse] #7397835
11/05/21 11:18 PM
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Ball First or Kerr if no Ball available


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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: J.Morse] #7397838
11/05/21 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Ball First or Kerr if no Ball available


I quit using Ball a few years ago. Too many failures.

I use mostly all Golden Harvest now.

I also use Tattlers and Harvest Guard but they have a bit of a learning curve.

Next time I need lids I plan to try those blue rubber ones, though.

Originally Posted by J.Morse
Thanks Angela. Those aren't really more money if they seal and stay that way! I'm sick about losing that venison.


Especially if you order enough to reach $50 and get the free shipping


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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: 330-Trapper] #7397840
11/05/21 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Ball First or Kerr if no Ball available


Also, Scott, not sure if you've not been canning lately, or maybe it's different in MN but I've only seen packs of just lids for sale once in the past 2 years here.


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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: J.Morse] #7397846
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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: yotetrapper30] #7397850
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I was fortunate, I bought several hundred knock offs for my canning season this year. I used about 50 plus wide mouth lids and close to 200 regular size lids and had 1 fail to seal. I stocked up for next year again.

Bryce

Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: J.Morse] #7397857
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I had a fifty or so boxes going into the shortage, and didn't can much last year. Found some Golden Harvest at Dollar General this summer and re-upped my supply. Golden Harvest has been my go to brand for a decade now...hardly EVER get a fail and on the rare times I do I usually find the jar was chipped.


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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: J.Morse] #7397873
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All we ever use are ball lids. I can't recall the last time one didn't seal. Our Walmart has had them in stock a lot, right now they have large mouth lids or lids with rings and regular mouth with lids and rings. We have plenty. Too much work to can stuff to risk a cheap brand or junky jars, like old mayo jars and such. Good to know the Golden Harvest are a viable option. I'll never buy Kerr again, terrible luck with them in the past.

Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: ~ADC~] #7397878
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
All we ever use are ball lids. I can't recall the last time one didn't seal. Our Walmart has had them in stock a lot, right now they have large mouth lids or lids with rings and regular mouth with lids and rings. We have plenty. Too much work to can stuff to risk a cheap brand or junky jars, like old mayo jars and such. Good to know the Golden Harvest are a viable option. I'll never buy Kerr again, terrible luck with them in the past.


The crazy thing is that Ball, Kerr, and Golden Harvest are all made in the same factory. But they do NOT all work the same, lol.


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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: J.Morse] #7397881
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We have not seen packs of just lids in our Walmart in over eight months. Can't find them anywhere local. Found some on line for around $20 per hundred plus shipping that seem to work ok.

Like some much else, must be sitting on a ship in LA harbor.

Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: yotetrapper30] #7397908
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I also use Tattlers and Harvest Guard but they have a bit of a learning curve.


Over the last several years we’ve gone almost exclusively to the reusable lids. Not nearly as forgiving but when you figure things out they are very simple, reliable and good quality lids. Some have been on the shelf for 4 seasons now after this last fall. We still have several cases of Ball and Kerr but haven’t used one in two years now. Before I used a cheap or Chicom lid, I would seriously consider reusing your preferred brand. Years ago as young family and completely broke, we reused lids all the time. Maybe not recommend but it does happen more than it’s talked about and it does work. But, you have to look the lid over very carefully for anything suspect.



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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: J.Morse] #7397915
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Our Walmart had the Ball lids and rings. During August, Sept, and the first part of Oct they were limiting people to 2 packs of 12. We'd do the online pickup thing, then we'd go in and buy 2 packs when we went to pick the order up.


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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: J.Morse] #7397916
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I got 6 dozen regular kerr lids at our wal mart the other day. It was the first time I've seen just the lids on the shelf for over a year.

Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: J.Morse] #7397932
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I like the tattler reusable lids. i bought 3 dozen and got the fourth dozen free from good2go.ca

Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: yotetrapper30] #7397946
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I had a fifty or so boxes going into the shortage, and didn't can much last year. Found some Golden Harvest at Dollar General this summer and re-upped my supply. Golden Harvest has been my go to brand for a decade now...hardly EVER get a fail and on the rare times I do I usually find the jar was chipped.

Well we'll be trying them next season, if we can find some that is.


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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: 330-Trapper] #7397983
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Originally Posted by SpottedOwl
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I also use Tattlers and Harvest Guard but they have a bit of a learning curve.


Over the last several years we’ve gone almost exclusively to the reusable lids. Not nearly as forgiving but when you figure things out they are very simple, reliable and good quality lids. Some have been on the shelf for 4 seasons now after this last fall. We still have several cases of Ball and Kerr but haven’t used one in two years now. Before I used a cheap or Chicom lid, I would seriously consider reusing your preferred brand. Years ago as young family and completely broke, we reused lids all the time. Maybe not recommend but it does happen more than it’s talked about and it does work. But, you have to look the lid over very carefully for anything suspect.



Owl


Yes I reuse lids as well but so far have only used them on jellies or fruits... something that if they don't seal I won't be heartbroken, as opposed to something that takes 90 minutes in the PC. BUT I've never had a reused lid not seal yet.

Which brands of reusable lids do you use? I bought a dozen Tattlers probably 10 years ago and had no problems. This year I bought 4 dozen Harvest guard and had a LOT of failures. In one batch of about 20 quarts of tomato juice, 4 failed. I got disgusted and haven't messed with them since.



Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I had a fifty or so boxes going into the shortage, and didn't can much last year. Found some Golden Harvest at Dollar General this summer and re-upped my supply. Golden Harvest has been my go to brand for a decade now...hardly EVER get a fail and on the rare times I do I usually find the jar was chipped.

Well we'll be trying them next season, if we can find some that is.


Dollar General between April-July is where you'll find them. Walmart carries them once in a while.


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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: J.Morse] #7397990
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just so you know, you can buckle even ball and kerr lids. I have done it. I believe it is from over tightening the rings initially.


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