Cheap canning lids.
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As most of you know, finding lids was a challenge this year. I ended up buying 100 regular mouth lids off Ebay for $20 about 2 weeks ago. Chinese lids. I canned up 32 pints of venison a few days ago. 4 jars didn't even seal. One of those even dented....how does that happen when a ring is holding it down? Since then, after cleaning the jars and labeling them, I left them on the towel on the counter so I could watch them a little while before lugging them to the shelves in the basement. 4 have popped their seal since then! I am totally P.O.'d. I should have known better than using those dang things. The company selling them is called Tantalu48. Please don't waste your time, or worse, your venison, by using these junk lids.
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Re: Cheap canning lids.
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Thanks Angela. Those aren't really more money if they seal and stay that way! I'm sick about losing that venison.
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11/05/21 11:21 PM
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Ball First or Kerr if no Ball available I quit using Ball a few years ago. Too many failures. I use mostly all Golden Harvest now. I also use Tattlers and Harvest Guard but they have a bit of a learning curve. Next time I need lids I plan to try those blue rubber ones, though. Thanks Angela. Those aren't really more money if they seal and stay that way! I'm sick about losing that venison. Especially if you order enough to reach $50 and get the free shipping
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Re: Cheap canning lids.
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Ball First or Kerr if no Ball available Also, Scott, not sure if you've not been canning lately, or maybe it's different in MN but I've only seen packs of just lids for sale once in the past 2 years here.
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Re: Cheap canning lids.
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I had a fifty or so boxes going into the shortage, and didn't can much last year. Found some Golden Harvest at Dollar General this summer and re-upped my supply. Golden Harvest has been my go to brand for a decade now...hardly EVER get a fail and on the rare times I do I usually find the jar was chipped.
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11/06/21 12:05 AM
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All we ever use are ball lids. I can't recall the last time one didn't seal. Our Walmart has had them in stock a lot, right now they have large mouth lids or lids with rings and regular mouth with lids and rings. We have plenty. Too much work to can stuff to risk a cheap brand or junky jars, like old mayo jars and such. Good to know the Golden Harvest are a viable option. I'll never buy Kerr again, terrible luck with them in the past. The crazy thing is that Ball, Kerr, and Golden Harvest are all made in the same factory. But they do NOT all work the same, lol.
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I also use Tattlers and Harvest Guard but they have a bit of a learning curve.
Over the last several years we’ve gone almost exclusively to the reusable lids. Not nearly as forgiving but when you figure things out they are very simple, reliable and good quality lids. Some have been on the shelf for 4 seasons now after this last fall. We still have several cases of Ball and Kerr but haven’t used one in two years now. Before I used a cheap or Chicom lid, I would seriously consider reusing your preferred brand. Years ago as young family and completely broke, we reused lids all the time. Maybe not recommend but it does happen more than it’s talked about and it does work. But, you have to look the lid over very carefully for anything suspect. Owl
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Our Walmart had the Ball lids and rings. During August, Sept, and the first part of Oct they were limiting people to 2 packs of 12. We'd do the online pickup thing, then we'd go in and buy 2 packs when we went to pick the order up.
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11/06/21 08:02 AM
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I also use Tattlers and Harvest Guard but they have a bit of a learning curve.
Over the last several years we’ve gone almost exclusively to the reusable lids. Not nearly as forgiving but when you figure things out they are very simple, reliable and good quality lids. Some have been on the shelf for 4 seasons now after this last fall. We still have several cases of Ball and Kerr but haven’t used one in two years now. Before I used a cheap or Chicom lid, I would seriously consider reusing your preferred brand. Years ago as young family and completely broke, we reused lids all the time. Maybe not recommend but it does happen more than it’s talked about and it does work. But, you have to look the lid over very carefully for anything suspect. Owl Yes I reuse lids as well but so far have only used them on jellies or fruits... something that if they don't seal I won't be heartbroken, as opposed to something that takes 90 minutes in the PC. BUT I've never had a reused lid not seal yet. Which brands of reusable lids do you use? I bought a dozen Tattlers probably 10 years ago and had no problems. This year I bought 4 dozen Harvest guard and had a LOT of failures. In one batch of about 20 quarts of tomato juice, 4 failed. I got disgusted and haven't messed with them since. I had a fifty or so boxes going into the shortage, and didn't can much last year. Found some Golden Harvest at Dollar General this summer and re-upped my supply. Golden Harvest has been my go to brand for a decade now...hardly EVER get a fail and on the rare times I do I usually find the jar was chipped. Well we'll be trying them next season, if we can find some that is. Dollar General between April-July is where you'll find them. Walmart carries them once in a while.
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just so you know, you can buckle even ball and kerr lids. I have done it. I believe it is from over tightening the rings initially.
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