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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: upstateNY] #7398918
11/07/21 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
If they sealed right the first time,,your not getting them off without ruining them.



Originally Posted by upstateNY
And Yotetrapper30.I stand by my statement.When my jars come out of the Pressure canner,,I would like to see you pull the lids off with your fingers without bending the lid a bit.I never reuse lids.To each his own.


Yotetrapper30ís right, BS. Thereís several way to open jars without damage to the lid, a knife spine, openers, spoons, and even bare hands work just right. Even when theyíre properly processed and sealed. Lots of people can open jars with their fingers, I never could, but my former wife and both my kids can and do, maybe itís a girl thing. No damage to the lids. Itís a running joke around here, the kids will hide the opener so I have to ask them to open a jar for me.

Because you canít do something doesnít mean nobody else can. Remember, necessity is the mother of invention, Iím glad youíve not had the need. Youíre right about one thing though, to each their own.



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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: J.Morse] #7399061
11/07/21 05:49 PM
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Like I said spotted owl.To each his own.All you folks want to reuse lids or use chinee lids that no one knows what the white lining is made of,,go for it. I put too much time and effort into my canned goods to take chances,.Enjoy your meals. smile Same ones short on canning supplies are probly the same ones short on ammo.Should have learned from the first go around.

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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: upstateNY] #7399068
11/07/21 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
Like I said spotted owl.To each his own.All you folks want to reuse lids or use chinee lids that no one knows what the white lining is made of,,go for it. I put too much time and effort into my canned goods to take chances,.Enjoy your meals. smile


I agree, too much risk for me, but go for it if you want.

Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: ~ADC~] #7399429
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I have never reused lids and yes I bend many of them when I open the jars. I guess I can live with adding 15 cents to 50 cents a jar by using unused lids.

Bryce

Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: bblwi] #7399484
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Originally Posted by bblwi
I have never reused lids and yes I bend many of them when I open the jars. I guess I can live with adding 15 cents to 50 cents a jar by using unused lids.

Bryce

Geeze, I wish lids were only 15 cents. smile

Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: J.Morse] #7399546
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The lids are the only thing goobrament approved my jars have seen.
Better throw em all out and buy Libbys. grin grin





Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: J.Morse] #7399561
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I don't reuse lids and I can generally take them off using my thumbs. My mom thought I was nuts and doing something wrong canning when I mentioned it to her. The look on her face when I grabbed a jar of her pickles and did it was priceless.

And in case anyone is wondering I have a couple rounds of ammo laying about.


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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: J.Morse] #7399578
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Cheap lids are no good. I bought some in 2020 because Ball lids were really expensive. My girl friend canned this year and 2 of 7 buckled. So, we set those aside and used them as soon as possible. Got back online and bit the bullet and bought the good ones.

Garryowen

Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: J.Morse] #7399604
11/08/21 10:01 AM
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I don't know what you guys are doing to have all these failures. I can at least 300 jars of food every season, use lids many times over and may have one or two not seal. Do not boil lids before you use them. Do not tighten rings to tight. Clean the jar top with a rag after filling them. I have several Amish friends who use their lids over and over as well. I have been canning since I was a kid in my mother's kitchen. Get you a good Ball canning book and follow the simple instructions especially the head space requirements. It is simple and safe. You just need to read and follow instructions. LLL


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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: J.Morse] #7400001
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Genuine Ball lids are 3 bucks a box at Walmart.Cheap insurance.My wife and I do up around four hundred jars a year.Anyone wants my used lids your welcome to them. grin


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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: upstateNY] #7400016
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
Genuine Ball lids are 3 bucks a box at Walmart.Cheap insurance.My wife and I do up around four hundred jars a year.Anyone wants my used lids your welcome to them. grin


I haven't seen a box of lids of any brand at Walmart in over 2 years and I check every time I go there.


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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: yotetrapper30] #7400031
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by upstateNY
Genuine Ball lids are 3 bucks a box at Walmart.Cheap insurance.My wife and I do up around four hundred jars a year.Anyone wants my used lids your welcome to them. grin


I haven't seen a box of lids of any brand at Walmart in over 2 years and I check every time I go there.

Holy cow,,that sucks.I have two Walmarts not far from me,,and both have had Ball lids and jars pretty much all summer..22 shells also.


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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: yotetrapper30] #7400033
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by upstateNY
Genuine Ball lids are 3 bucks a box at Walmart.Cheap insurance.My wife and I do up around four hundred jars a year.Anyone wants my used lids your welcome to them. grin


I haven't seen a box of lids of any brand at Walmart in over 2 years and I check every time I go there.



keep an eye out. the local walfart here had a pallet worth sitting on the floor last week late in evening to be stocked. there were still a good number yesterday on the shelf

Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: BigBlackBirds] #7400065
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Originally Posted by BigBlackBirds
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30

I haven't seen a box of lids of any brand at Walmart in over 2 years and I check every time I go there.



keep an eye out. the local walfart here had a pallet worth sitting on the floor last week late in evening to be stocked. there were still a good number yesterday on the shelf



Of lids? Or jars? I've found jars there... but never just boxes of lids.


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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: LLtrapper] #7400176
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Originally Posted by LLtrapper
I don't know what you guys are doing to have all these failures. I can at least 300 jars of food every season, use lids many times over and may have one or two not seal. Do not boil lids before you use them. Do not tighten rings to tight. Clean the jar top with a rag after filling them. I have several Amish friends who use their lids over and over as well. I have been canning since I was a kid in my mother's kitchen. Get you a good Ball canning book and follow the simple instructions especially the head space requirements. It is simple and safe. You just need to read and follow instructions. LLL

Not trying to pick, but this one gave me a good belly laugh. I couldnt find anywhere in the Ball canning book 'simple instructions' that recommends reusing lids...Lol im sure you have more canning experience under your belt, but im still not reusing lids.

Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: midlander] #7400179
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I stated .15 to 50 cents. The 250 lids I bought last year that had 1 failure were through Amazon at $72 as we are Amazon prime and paid no shipping. That is a tad below 30 cents per lid. The 300 I ordered this year were a tad less per lid. We will see how those work next year.

Bryce

Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: upstateNY] #7400259
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
Genuine Ball lids are 3 bucks a box at Walmart.Cheap insurance.My wife and I do up around four hundred jars a year.Anyone wants my used lids your welcome to them. grin


I will send you a self addressed box.


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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: bblwi] #7400263
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Originally Posted by bblwi
I stated .15 to 50 cents. The 250 lids I bought last year that had 1 failure were through Amazon at $72 as we are Amazon prime and paid no shipping. That is a tad below 30 cents per lid. The 300 I ordered this year were a tad less per lid. We will see how those work next year.

Bryce


How much do you pay for Amazon prime? Do you count wear and tear on your pickup as cost against trapping profit? LLL


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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: J.Morse] #7400288
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Re: Cheap canning lids. [Re: LLtrapper] #7400291
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No I use the standard mileage rate for recording my auto expenses. I don't know what Amazon Prime costs, my wife uses it a lot. I will ask her.

Bryce

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