Re: Edmund Fitzgerald
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11/10/21 12:41 PM
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I watched a documentary on it 5 years ago. Being from the plains I had never heard of it before. I had never really thought about how dangerous the Great Lakes are. Thumbs up to all that make a living in the shipping industry and bless all those that have lost their lives.
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Re: Edmund Fitzgerald
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11/10/21 01:30 PM
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Lightfoot is a great songwriter.A lot of his songs,but not all, are about events historical and contemporary. I believe Gord spent a lot of time performing in Michigan and other border states early in his careerThe Canadian railroad trilogy,and Black day in July a couple more good ones. A few of my friends I went to high school with went to work on the Lake freighters.They would return home in winter with lots of interesting stories about the lakes in late fall.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Edmund Fitzgerald
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11/10/21 02:01 PM
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Lightfoot is a great songwriter.A lot of his songs,but not all, are about events historical and contemporary. I believe Gord spent a lot of time performing in Michigan and other border states early in his careerThe Canadian railroad trilogy,and Black day in July a couple more good ones.
Seen him a pile of times. Great musician and songwriter.
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Re: Edmund Fitzgerald
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I wonder if he ever got heckled for commenting on American issues because he was Canadian?
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Re: Edmund Fitzgerald
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11/10/21 02:50 PM
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I wonder if he ever got heckled for commenting on American issues because he was Canadian? Only for losing the "Fish" - John Stockfish!!
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Re: Edmund Fitzgerald
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11/10/21 03:30 PM
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No complaining here Rusty, I just like to remember that the Anderson turned around and went back out after sailing through (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) and making it to safe harbour while the two "salties" heading uplake declined to assist...That is of course after Captian Cooper had to practically beg the Coast Guard to begin a search for the Fitz... I still see the Anderson quite often while salmon fishing. I think that's her over my mom's shoulder. I have a bunch of pictures of her, but not any on my phone. Cool shot there sjc...Again, no complaints, I just have to think of the fortitude it must have taken for those guys on the Anderson, after reaching safe harbour, to go back out into that raging lake...Nice that so many others here know of the Anderson and of that crew....
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Re: Edmund Fitzgerald
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11/10/21 05:46 PM
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Story of lazy man load. Over loaded it from what I heard. Not so much jbyrd, more of a failure to secure hatches (although some were unable to be made water-tight)...I believe the Fitz was slowly sinking most of the trip and McSorely never really knew it...IMO it finally "hogged" between two waves and her fate was sealed...A couple of giant waves caught her astern, pushed her bow under and sent her to the bottom... Of course, to your point of over-loading, the original load-line from 1958 was changed twice over her tenure, so the freeboard went from (I believe) 15 feet to perhaps 11 feet...By 1958 standards, you could look at it as overloaded, but NOT because of the laziness of the crew... Wasn't implying the crew was lazy! That word doesn't exist in that line of work. That's a term used around here when you carry more than you can handle and you dump the load before you can get to your destination. The term implies that someone didn't want to make more than one trip to move something.
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Re: Edmund Fitzgerald
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Do "iron boats" still run on the lakes?
I kind of figured all that went by the wayside with most of the mills being gone now.
Mike
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Re: Edmund Fitzgerald
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Do "iron boats" still run on the lakes?
I kind of figured all that went by the wayside with most of the mills being gone now.
Mike Yes. And the Anderson is still sailing today. Seen it come threw the canal in Duluth last summer. Sure is an awesome sight to see it slide threw the canal. Something worth the trip to see.
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Re: Edmund Fitzgerald
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Life member, NRA, NTA, RMEF, Pheasants Forever. WTA,TTA,FTA,SA,GOA, member
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Re: Edmund Fitzgerald
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Do "iron boats" still run on the lakes?
I kind of figured all that went by the wayside with most of the mills being gone now.
Mike Big business on the lakes still
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Re: Edmund Fitzgerald
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11/10/21 09:47 PM
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^^^^^^ SEALs do the same thing
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