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Re: Got a call today [Re: jbyrd63] #7406410
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70 miles isn't very far - what's the typical range for whitetail deer? Do they typically stay in a 20 square mile area from when they are born to when they die? Or do they roam aimlessly?


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Re: Got a call today [Re: jbyrd63] #7406413
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Re: Got a call today [Re: DakotaBoy] #7406567
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Originally Posted by DakotaBoy
70 miles isn't very far - what's the typical range for whitetail deer? Do they typically stay in a 20 square mile area from when they are born to when they die? Or do they roam aimlessly?


around me the dnr guys say a vast majority spend their time in a small area of a couple square miles once they are established. but there are places in the state where they also historically had a habit of making pretty long migrations for food etc. the old timers in these parts talked about the deer moving off the ag land in late fall (during 30-70's) and going into traditional wintering type yards of swamps like the deer do further north in the state. ive never really seen that and about the farthest i see them move around me for food is 1-1.5 miles max as ag food is pretty available everywhere. there are quite a few river bottoms with public land in parts of the state where i've seen deer migrate from a long ways due to heavier hunting pressure but there just isnt much of any pressure on the private ground around these parts for more than a few days max. the local deer just go noctural and drop into the brush for a few days and then start to ease back out as the orange army subsidies.

the biologists talk about the young ones wandering to find a home place. this past winter on crop damage permit we shot a buck that had dropped its antlers . it would have been 2 years old in a couple months in spring time. was radio collared in its first fall. over its first winter it made one trip about five miles south of where it was collared and stayed only short period of time. then moved nearly a dozen miles north of where it was collared and was there a short time before it returned to where originally captured. spent the summer in a real small area then in early fall moved about 15 miles north and this time stayed put. never ventured more than about 1 mile over course of 5 months and its bedroom in those months were in whats basically a subdivision. not sure if that is pretty normal or influenced by alot of factors that might be different in each area

Re: Got a call today [Re: jbyrd63] #7406581
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Once again you guys can’t read but don’t care zone 1 in unlimited deer

Re: Got a call today [Re: jbyrd63] #7406586
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Did ya thin them down today?

Re: Got a call today [Re: jbyrd63] #7406600
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Once again you guys can’t read but don’t care zone 1 in unlimited deer



is that zone far west? when i lived down there we hunted some place west in the state and shot alot of does. the farmers where we hunted hated them about like they do around here. of course that was a long time ago and i'm sure deer numbers have changed some. it was pretty wide open flatter farm land; alot different than the country around mccreary, clinton, wayne, pulaski, russell counties. i cant recall the name of the town off hand but i do recall we went down around the end of the lake and west thru burkesville. there was a deer check station somewhere along the way that i remember we use to come thru on the way home but sorta think that was farther west towards glasgow.

Re: Got a call today [Re: BigBlackBirds] #7406619
11/16/21 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlackBirds

around me the dnr guys say a vast majority spend their time in a small area of a couple square miles once they are established. but there are places in the state where they also historically had a habit of making pretty long migrations for food etc. the old timers in these parts talked about the deer moving off the ag land in late fall (during 30-70's) and going into traditional wintering type yards of swamps like the deer do further north in the state. ive never really seen that and about the farthest i see them move around me for food is 1-1.5 miles max as ag food is pretty available everywhere. there are quite a few river bottoms with public land in parts of the state where i've seen deer migrate from a long ways due to heavier hunting pressure but there just isnt much of any pressure on the private ground around these parts for more than a few days max. the local deer just go noctural and drop into the brush for a few days and then start to ease back out as the orange army subsidies.

the biologists talk about the young ones wandering to find a home place. this past winter on crop damage permit we shot a buck that had dropped its antlers . it would have been 2 years old in a couple months in spring time. was radio collared in its first fall. over its first winter it made one trip about five miles south of where it was collared and stayed only short period of time. then moved nearly a dozen miles north of where it was collared and was there a short time before it returned to where originally captured. spent the summer in a real small area then in early fall moved about 15 miles north and this time stayed put. never ventured more than about 1 mile over course of 5 months and its bedroom in those months were in whats basically a subdivision. not sure if that is pretty normal or influenced by alot of factors that might be different in each area.

Interesting, thanks for that info.!


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Re: Got a call today [Re: jbyrd63] #7406677
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Ok here are the visiual aids the slow members of our class need. The white zones have hardly any deer. The yellow has a huntable amount but spotty. The tan and dark rust color zones are over run . The thread about the herd suffering was inregards to the white and yellow zones. People hunt for days or entire season and never see a legal deer. THEY ARE the zones I refer to about zone jumping causeing the herd to suffer.

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Re: Got a call today [Re: jbyrd63] #7406685
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Yea 8.30 and more than my winch loader wanted to handle. Saw 13 in 2 hrs . Sitting on a dove seat with shooting sticks. Totally different world in zone 1 vs my home county.



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Re: Got a call today [Re: jbyrd63] #7406688
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Awesome! Bet the landowner was happy!

Chris


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Re: Got a call today [Re: BigBlackBirds] #7406691
11/16/21 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlackBirds
Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Once again you guys can’t read but don’t care zone 1 in unlimited deer



is that zone far west? when i lived down there we hunted some place west in the state and shot alot of does. the farmers where we hunted hated them about like they do around here. of course that was a long time ago and i'm sure deer numbers have changed some. it was pretty wide open flatter farm land; alot different than the country around mccreary, clinton, wayne, pulaski, russell counties. i cant recall the name of the town off hand but i do recall we went down around the end of the lake and west thru burkesville. there was a deer check station somewhere along the way that i remember we use to come thru on the way home but sorta think that was farther west towards glasgow.


Yes the farther west you go the more deer you see and can harvest.

Re: Got a call today [Re: jbyrd63] #7406693
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What? The buck doesn't count. I see it in the truck.


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Re: Got a call today [Re: Hodagtrapper] #7406696
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Awesome! Bet the landowner was happy!

Chris

Yes hodag He was loading his combine as I left he just pulled in. Wanted to know if I could come back tomorrow . Told him I would if I was able to walk LOL. Dropped them off at the best butcher shop in the nation Showalters meats. 2 guys from ohio were picking up a deer they brought all the way to them .

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Originally Posted by Animals Only
What? The buck doesn't count. I see it in the truck.


Not mine that was my sons He shoots savell deer lol Not burning my one and only buck tag on that juvenile.
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Re: Got a call today [Re: furstroker] #7406703
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Originally Posted by furstroker
What makes you think you're the answer to his problems?
Do you think you can get it done?
What's your plan when they dont show?
It doesnt sound like a "slam-dunk" to me.
Good luck. Those deer are SPOOKED! grin

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THIS is why I think I'm the answer. I know their patterns and where to look when pushed. lol lol lol Yes they are spooked to death by an 87 grain spitzer pushed by 44 grains of 4831

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Re: Got a call today [Re: jbyrd63] #7406706
11/16/21 04:11 PM
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Is this private land and if so is it open to the public to receive depredation tags?
I dint read all the posts.

Re: Got a call today [Re: jbyrd63] #7406710
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Yes private land What makes it so over run is it is river bottoms and this is the ONLY ag within 10-15 miles. Surrounded by big oak hills and hollers. Every deer for miles either summers there when it's in beans or flocks in during the fall winter if corn. The land owner must apply for crop tags based on the acres. The state looks at damage. The tags are for antlerless only and must be taken during hunting season by what ever is legal at the time.

Re: Got a call today [Re: jbyrd63] #7406718
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Glad ya got some meat. The way Beef is going, Deer are gonna get more attention.

Re: Got a call today [Re: hippie] #7406722
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Originally Posted by hippie
Glad ya got some meat. The way Beef is going, Deer are gonna get more attention.


Yes got 3 families that couldn't stop thanking me when I text them . I pay the butcher bill and give them to the elderly in our church. Inflation really hits fixed income folks.

Re: Got a call today [Re: jbyrd63] #7406724
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^^^Very nice^^^^

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