That he did. The crowd would've probably gotten me down and killed me as haven't been 17 for a few decades now. I'd have had zero problem pulling the trigger though as I sat down and had that conversation with myself when I was 17 and in uniform. But I'm also pretty sure I would not have placed myself in that situation though.

I still say Kyle's only wrong that night was allowing himself to get separated from his group and that is not a crime but a tactical error.

I say this because in the future we should not be hoping some youngster steps up to go into the crowd alone. Maybe our communities should come together old farts and youngsters working as a team when the mob comes calling.

People and their nutty opinions are why this country is in a fix.

Folks like Mark K remind me of Dad's comments on the South Vietnamese. They really could not care less on just who was in charge in Saigon or Hanoi as long as they were just left alone with their little hooch, rice paddy and water buffalo.

Most definitely.

Minnesota perspective? How about this, he went out to protect his neighborhood (his father lives there) businesses, and friends from rioters and looters. This revolves around perspective. And........... I think that was the British perspective of the original American Minutemen.[/quote]
He also worked in that town as a life guard. He spent time trying to help clean the town up.[/quote]

i thought BLM and antifa were the ones compared to the revolutionaries of 1776?

I never worked in criminal law matters, but in civil cases the judge may issue a directed verdict even after a jury has rendered its own verdict. (In Rittenhouse's case it would be a directed verdict of acquittal.) I think it works the same in criminal cases, though I don't know the procedure used.

I'm with Ken, this report has to be fake. Jury deliberations are conducted in secret to protect jurors in every case from facing adverse repercussions. If the judge gets wind of a leak, he'd raise holy heck and probably order a new trial.

Jim

After looking into a bit I don't either. Appears it all originated from one Tweet by Jack Posobiec

^^This should certainly be the case, assuming we have Justice System left where one is innocent until proven guilty without a shadow of a doubt.

The standard isn't "without a shadow of a doubt."

The standard of proof is "beyond a reasonable doubt."

Big difference.

Jim

That criticism of the police and National Guard is totally misdirected. They could have, and were certainly not afraid to, put a stop to this nonsense early on before things got out of control. These riots, looting and destruction of businesses and personal property are squarely on the backs of the liberal mayors and governors that ordered the police to stand down, and did not immediately activate the National Guard.

Oh, you don't understand the woke day of age? Do you?

While true, blame still needs to be placed for following those orders. At what point do our civil servants say enough is enough and uphold their oath not to the political hacks but to the Constitution? Or will they like others before them follow their orders to round up the politically inconvenient?

Jurors are supposed to be oblivious to ALL outside misdirection to their case. In this day and age, I don't know how that's possible.

Agreed.
I really don't understand the whole trial and how Rittenhouse is being tried for murder in the first place.

Or we as American citizens expected to stand by and do nothing while our police are defunded and told to stand down and do nothing to protect us while bad guys burn our businesses down and destroy our property? Can we not defend our belongings from thugs that are trying to destroy it?

If the police and government officials don't stop the lawlessness, I guess us law abiding citizens just have to sit here, bend over, and watch everything we have worked for go up in flames. The rationale makes no sense at all to me. The fact that this has even gone to trial is enough for me to believe that we no longer have a Justice System.

No it's not. Did they quit? Would you have quit if you were ordered to watch a city you swore on your honor to protect, be burnt to the ground? National Guardsmen and LEOs take an oath to Protect and Serve. If even half of them had just said "No I won't stand down...."

I agree the ones that were scared were the police chief and the head of the national guard (so governor guess) i didn't mean to imply every officer or soldier was scared but if the leaders were then follows the rest.

That is right. We saw the same thing happen in MN. The liberal Twin City mayors and our goofy governor did nothing about the rioters for several days. Then, the Minneapolis mayor contacted Governor Goofy and asked him for help because of all the destruction that had taken place. Governor did nothing until then president Trump told him if he didn't call up the National Guard, Trump would send in federal troops. The National Guard was activated, but by then the worst of the damage had been done. Many businesses were destroyed never to reopen. Many owned by black businessmen.

My guess is it will be a hung jury and the kid will walk for all of it. Its not that easy to get a jury to convict on something like this.

I think he will be convicted on a lesser charge,get a 7 year sentence and be parolled in 4 or less.

I wonder if the jurors realize all that they can change with this decision.