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Re: Coyote Prices [Re: M.S. Pickins] #7416080
11/27/21 05:54 PM
11/27/21 05:54 PM
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A name hasn't been given.

Doesn't matter, most of us wouldn't recognize it.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Coyote Prices [Re: wy.wolfer] #7416084
11/27/21 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
Originally Posted by walleye101
Who's Marty?
And did we ever identify who is the "main man" in the coyote market?

Yep we did, the same main man that used to be king of the coon market.


So the same guy that was able to drive coon prices into the ground, and keep them there, is now doing the same with coyote?

Re: Coyote Prices [Re: M.S. Pickins] #7416088
11/27/21 06:03 PM
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Relax, have a beer. It was a yoke

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Re: Coyote Prices [Re: wy.wolfer] #7416094
11/27/21 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
Relax, have a beer. It was a yoke


Don't mind if I do, mine was a yoke as well. smile

Re: Coyote Prices [Re: walleye101] #7416112
11/27/21 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by walleye101


So the same guy that was able to drive coon prices into the ground, and keep them there, is now doing the same with coyote?


Yup, name of way hung low. I think he was involved in the rat market as well.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Coyote Prices [Re: Boco] #7416173
11/27/21 08:03 PM
11/27/21 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
I bet those who sell good coyotes early this season will find out that they sold too cheap.
This sounds about right to me. It’s doom and gloom if you speak to the fur buyers. Ain’t pretty.


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Re: Coyote Prices [Re: wy.wolfer] #7416215
11/27/21 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Who's Marty?
And did we ever identify who is the "main man" in the coyote market?

As for Marty, last I heard, he was driving a truck. Not a fur truck.
Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
Yep we did, the same main man that used to be king of the coon market.

If I said his name do you think you would know him? He is from China. He has funded some MN buyers though. It does not really matter who he is, it is what he is doing that is effecting the market. I will call him Rich, because to have 200,000 coyotes that are tanned takes some money?
Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
Yep we did, the same main man that used to be king of the coon market.

How is that coon market since he bailed?


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Re: Coyote Prices [Re: M.S. Pickins] #7416241
11/27/21 08:55 PM
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According to Petska Facebook he is back buying for them.

Re: Coyote Prices [Re: scheide] #7416291
11/27/21 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by scheide
According to Petska Facebook he is back buying for them.


Yeah, he drives truck seasonally and then buys for Petska during the winter months.

Re: Coyote Prices [Re: M.S. Pickins] #7416336
11/27/21 10:27 PM
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Thanks MJM, not that it matters but interesting to know.

Re: Coyote Prices [Re: M.S. Pickins] #7416353
11/27/21 10:45 PM
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"The fur trade is rife with rumor,..." "However, it usually pays to base decisions on verifiable information, not rumours and hunches."
Gary Schroeder, FFG

July 2021 FHA sale I got 100 avg for my heavy coyotes and $40 for my semis. Turned out to be a $60.00 avg pre commission.


you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
Re: Coyote Prices [Re: M.S. Pickins] #7416443
11/28/21 01:18 AM
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What good does it to know his name you can 't sell to him or her.
Just throwing his name around doesn’t gain you anything.
All I can say it will not make a difference as far as selling your coyotes .
Marty is one of the good guys he buys fur as he see it .


Kenneth schoening
Re: Coyote Prices [Re: M.S. Pickins] #7416446
11/28/21 01:21 AM
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You can speculate but there is much that most will never know about the inner workings of the fur market. What is visible is only a part of it. I will leave it at that.

Re: Coyote Prices [Re: Slick Pan] #7416498
11/28/21 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Slick Pan
You can speculate but there is much that most will never know about the inner workings of the fur market. What is visible is only a part of it. I will leave it at that.


No truer word were ever spoken. Most of us have absolutely no idea of what actually goes on behind the scenes, including me.
The shell game that grony plays at the rat wagon pales in comparison to the bigger games that are played at our expense. Imo


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Re: Coyote Prices [Re: 60inchsnare] #7416531
11/28/21 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 60inchsnare
Marty means I am here to steal what you have.
Never felt like a total looser til I dealt with him.
I would take Griz and him giving me 0 any day.
I have sold plenty of coyotes for $5. Not really about the $
I have a job that let's me pursue these critters at my leisure.
And it's definitely not to put $ in Marty's hands. Perska fur
In my opinion means your fur is never good enough.
I can't be the only one that thinks this.

Your a funny guy, I never had a check bounce, paid any commission, or was forced to sell while selling to a traveling buyer. And no shipping cost. Just saying!

Re: Coyote Prices [Re: M.S. Pickins] #7416542
11/28/21 09:03 AM
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Every coyote is hoping that the coyote traps stay in the truck.
Not mine.
They're waxed and ready for the ground no matter how rich I do or don't get.

A trapper is what a trapper does.

Blessings,
Mark

Re: Coyote Prices [Re: lumberjack391] #7416555
11/28/21 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by lumberjack391
The trick is to not get enough fur to worry about....

crazy


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Re: Coyote Prices [Re: 60inchsnare] #7416558
11/28/21 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 60inchsnare
Marty means I am here to steal what you have.
Never felt like a total looser til I dealt with him.
I would take Griz and him giving me 0 any day.
I have sold plenty of coyotes for $5. Not really about the $
I have a job that let's me pursue these critters at my leisure.
And it's definitely not to put $ in Marty's hands. Perska fur
In my opinion means your fur is never good enough.
I can't be the only one that thinks this.



I'll listen to any constructive criticism.


I've never bent over backwards more to provide good customer service, than I did when I was a fur buyer.



One thing I learned after 12 yrs and half a million miles on the road in 14 different states, is the variation in human personality, means you won't make everyone happy.


You still try though.

Re: Coyote Prices [Re: M.S. Pickins] #7416563
11/28/21 09:18 AM
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Marty B I f you are back on the road and get up this way and need a place to stay give a shout. Maybe plan a couple days off the end of Feb early March and we will go spear fishing. Be safe.


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Re: Coyote Prices [Re: M.S. Pickins] #7416573
11/28/21 09:25 AM
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Looks like everyone is giving there opinion here so I'll share my vast knowledge as well.
First. MJM knows more bout the fur market than he lets out. Unfortunately he likes to tell stories so you gotta listen for hours to get the information your trying to get. Lol Seriously though he doesn't go around sharing rumors of what he thinks.

Second for all the Marty Haters. Mart has been to my place several times. Sometimes he bought others not. I'm not a fan of the 8 piles grading system he uses but when it's all over we always bartered on an average. He never got mad when I didn't sell to him. I have also traded and bought stuff off him at convention and talked to him or Greg petska on the phone lots of times. Over all I have to say Marty is a real good guy and is always willing to help if he can. I one time traded 2 dozen sweet corns for a homemade squirrel trap that I needed for my collection... It was a very hot august day so I'm not sure what he did with all that corn but I was happy.

Third thing. I have done a small bit of custom fur handling in my life. Most I have ever done was bout 100 coyotes in a season. But anyway I challenge anyone to go out and try buying fur or put up someone else's fur. I had guys bring me mange coyotes with no hair they shot with a 7mm deer hunting totally cuss me out when I told them that is junk throw it away... They had heard coyotes were 100 dollars. I seen a rancher pry a frozen coyote off his pickup with a crow bar... Actually tearing the leather not just hair. Can't figure out why my coyote isn't worth anything. The lack of knowledge on fur even amoug trappers us amazing. I didn't not claim to be an expert but I think I'd loose it and end up in jail if I tried buying fur.

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