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Re: Warning the court, threatening the country [Re: James] #7418902
11/30/21 10:42 PM
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Congress created the Supreme Court and can set the number of justices[/quote]

The Constitution, Art. III Sec.1, created the Supreme Court. Lesser courts are established by Congress.

The Constitution doesn't specify the number of justices on the Supreme Court (or lesser courts).

By not specifying the number of justices, the Framers of the Constitution showed their intention of meeting the needs of a growing nation and increasing court workload.

I think the number of justices should be increased to meet caseloads that have increased by orders of magnitude since the number was last set on nine, back in the 19th Century.

If the proposed increase is just an attempt at court-packing by either party, I oppose it.

Jim[/quote]
Absolutely the LAST thing we need are more lawyers.

Re: Warning the court, threatening the country [Re: Posco] #7418948
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I believe your right James, Judicial branch would take charge over the matter however at this point choose not to for political reasons. No different the the pot laws, feds say it is illegal schedule 1 drug nation wide. States vote that it is legal for recreational use medicinal use but feds choose not to enforce it for political reasons. The pot issue is totally stupid in my opinion, most states voted it in not because they wanted it. They voted it in because the could not stop it, but the biggest reason was for the tax money. How stupid is the federal government for not collecting tax money on it? California boasts collecting close to 2 billion bucks on pot tax. Both parties are always looking for more tax money and a sin tax applies only to those using the stuff. Plain stupid!

Re: Warning the court, threatening the country [Re: Posco] #7419223
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The amazing thing about Democrats is that they actually believe things are going well.


Do you really think anybody could be that stupid!!!!! hehe

Re: Warning the court, threatening the country [Re: gman] #7419242
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Originally Posted by gman
The amazing thing about Democrats is that they actually believe things are going well.
Do you really think anybody could be that stupid!!!!! hehe



Stupid is anyone voting for these anti gun freaks.
Just sayin...


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Re: Warning the court, threatening the country [Re: Leftlane] #7419247
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
Spay and neuter your Democrats please

This^^^


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Re: Warning the court, threatening the country [Re: 330-Trapper] #7419255
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Originally Posted by Leftlane
Spay and neuter your Democrats please

This^^^

Yep.

Re: Warning the court, threatening the country [Re: Posco] #7419325
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James, I don't see how increasing the number of judges would speed up the backlog of cases. each case has to be heard buy the one court. Now maybe two supreme courts could speed up the process. But let's wait until a republican is president to do that. laugh

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Re: Warning the court, threatening the country [Re: teepee2] #7419330
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Originally Posted by teepee2
James, I don't see how increasing the number of judges would speed up the backlog of cases. each case has to be heard buy the one court. Now maybe two supreme courts could speed up the process. But let's wait until a republican is president to do that. laugh

Exactly.

Re: Warning the court, threatening the country [Re: Posco] #7419338
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If Biden increases the number of judges to tip the scales in favor of the liberals, the next time (if ever) we have a republican president, they will do the same, tip the scales in favor of the conservatives. There would be no end to the number of Supreme Court judges the country could end up with, if it ever ends. If Biden starts packing the court, it will set a dangerous precedent.


The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
Re: Warning the court, threatening the country [Re: teepee2] #7419385
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Originally Posted by teepee2
James, I don't see how increasing the number of judges would speed up the backlog of cases. each case has to be heard buy the one court. Now maybe two supreme courts could speed up the process. But let's wait until a republican is president to do that. laugh



Let's not do that at all. Can you imagine if the two disagreed ? Could one overturn the decisions of the other? You would also need to amend the constitution to have two supreme courts.. BTW.......how can two entities be "supreme" ?


If SCOTUS were to overturn Roe and Casey, ( which would surprise me) I think it could have an impact on the 2022 midterms. But I also think that attempting to pack the court could backfire. I don't think they have the votes to do that anyway. But they might try.


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Re: Warning the court, threatening the country [Re: Posco] #7419407
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If Sleepy Joe Biden is actually elected President, the 4 Justices (plus1) that helped make such a ridiculous win possible would be relegated to sitting on not only a heavily PACKED COURT, but probably a REVOLVING COURT as well. At least the many new Justices will be Radical Left!

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Re: Warning the court, threatening the country [Re: Posco] #7419550
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You are right about that Bowhunter but..............with all due respect to your moral position on this.......it isn't about morality. It's about the law.
For 50 years we have been living with this hideous jurisprudence. That is what needs to change. At that point individuals will have the ability to directly affect the laws in their own states that reflect their individual moral view of the subject.

Direct election of state legislatures is the best mechanism to get the result you want.

Let's get the law right first.


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Re: Warning the court, threatening the country [Re: charles] #7419639
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Originally Posted by charles
We have separation of powers for a reason. The judicial branch is separate and equal to the other two branches. It may not always be perfect, but it is a darn good system. How would you improve it.
Threats to any branch should be dealt with accordingly. We already have the laws in place. We need to use them to their fullest potential, regardless of who the offender is,



Wanna buy one of Hunter Biden's paintings when ya wake up ???


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: Warning the court, threatening the country [Re: white17] #7419816
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Originally Posted by white17
You are right about that Bowhunter but..............with all due respect to your moral position on this.......it isn't about morality. It's about the law.
For 50 years we have been living with this hideous jurisprudence. That is what needs to change. At that point individuals will have the ability to directly affect the laws in their own states that reflect their individual moral view of the subject.

Direct election of state legislatures is the best mechanism to get the result you want.

Let's get the law right first.


If you're talking about abortion, I disagree. Once the states go their own ways, pregnant women in the Sharia-like states will simply cross state borders to get an abortion. When that happens, there will be pressure to ban abortion at the federal level--an attempt that would rip the country apart even more than now.

I have no objection to some states banning abortion, if they wish, so long as they keep it at home as a matter of states' rights.

Jim


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Re: Warning the court, threatening the country [Re: Posco] #7419904
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Yes that is my position too.

It is a state issue and a political issue that needs to be decided by state legislatures. That way at least those people can be held accountable by voters.

Roe should never have been decided the way it was.. The court should be clear it is a political issue and therefore should be dealt with by the political branches of government.

As far as banning abortion at the federal level goes............where does the federal government get the authority to do that. That is how we arrived where we are today.


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If the preamble to the U.S. Constitution has any legal merit, abortion at any stage is clearly unconstitutional.

Re: Warning the court, threatening the country [Re: Posco] #7419993
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If you put any stock in Jeffrey 'Tubin' Toobin, it was a very bad day in court for the pro-choice people.

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