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First California, now New York ... #7420814
12/03/21 01:03 AM
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I REFUSE TO GIVE UP MY HUSQUVARNA 25 HORSEPOWER GARDEN TRACTOR WITH THE 42 INCH SNOWBLOWER ATTACHMENT !!!

Peekskill, NY – New York State Senator Pete Harckham introduced new legislation recently that requires all in-state sales of new lawn care and landscaping equipment, such as mowers, leaf blowers and trimmers, be zero emissions by 2027.

“As New York continues to advance the goals set in the Climate Leadership and Community Protection Act, we need to do more to reduce our dependence on fossil fuels,” said Harckham. “Gas-powered landscaping devices create an inordinate amount of air pollutants, and so it is imperative that we transition to zero emission equipment.”

Added Harckham, “The environmental benefits of zero emission lawn devices are many, and as more communities in New York look to ban or partially ban gas-powered devices, the switch to electric equipment, which is certainly quieter to operate, will take place quickly statewide.”

Harckham’s new bill (S.7462) will amend the state’s energy law to require zero emission “lawn care devices” by 2027, which will include any device powered mechanically and intended to be used or actually used for “the mowing of grass, the cutting or chopping of trees, tree roots, or tree branches, or the clearing of leaves or other vegetation from lawns, sidewalks, public streets or public highways and shall include, but not be limited to, such devices as lawn mowers and lawn mower attachments, lawn edgers, leaf blowers, leaf vacuums, mulchers, and chippers.”

This bill notes that all lawn care devices that are offered for sale or sold in the state will be zero-emissions by 2027 which will be done with safety, technological feasibility, and cost- effectiveness in mind. With assistance from various state agencies, a plan will be put in place to ensure that a transition strategy is developed by February 2023. The agencies will overview the issue of new equipment affordability as well to ensure that these zero-emission lawn care devices are affordable so individuals in low-income and disadvantaged communities have the access to such devices.

Prior to submitting the legislation, which was filed with the Senate Rules Committee last week, Harckham met with professional landscapers, who voiced concerns about recouping investments on recently purchased equipment. The five-year implementation to zero emissions in the bill takes this into consideration.

Earlier this month, California Governor Gavin Newsom signed a bill banning gas-powered lawn equipment and generators starting in 2024. The state has three million more small, 2-cycle engine pieces of lawn equipment in use right now than light-duty passenger cars on the road. A California Air Resources Board study noted that a best-selling gas-powered leaf blower emits as much pollution in an hour of use as a 2016 Toyota Camry does driving for 1,100 miles.

According to a report from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, 54 million Americans mow their lawns (or have them mowed) each year, using 800 million gallons of gasoline. A new gas-powered mower produces in one hour as much greenhouse gases as 11 new cars being driven in an hour. Garden equipment engine emissions have been unregulated since the 1990s.

“Gas-powered, non-road equipment pollutes heavily and, when combined with the poor air quality present in many of our urban and suburban communities, presents a clear harm to the health and well-being of the residents of New York State,” said Mark F. Thielking, director of Energy and Sustainability for the Town of Bedford. “Electric-powered equipment, on the other hand, produces no emissions at the point of use, and is much more efficient, with performance that has improved significantly over the last decade to allow it to be a very good alternative.”

Re: First California, now New York ... [Re: Canvasback2] #7420834
12/03/21 05:32 AM
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does o emissions mean ny is closing all power plants that operate on coal, gas or nuclear?


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Re: First California, now New York ... [Re: Canvasback2] #7420889
12/03/21 07:53 AM
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Everything has a negative side. Unfortunately these idiots (media included) won't acknowledge the many negative impacts of all this planned electric powered stuff.

Re: First California, now New York ... [Re: Canvasback2] #7420900
12/03/21 08:06 AM
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great. Now im gonna have to round up the whole yard cause im not using one of the push mechanical mowers.


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Re: First California, now New York ... [Re: Canvasback2] #7420902
12/03/21 08:08 AM
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If this passes, and I hope it does not, all of the old gas powered equipment will be worth a fortune. Bottom line, the internal combustion engine is not going away. My bother is a engineer for a major heavy vehicle component company, he states that all Japanese auto companies are working together to develop a highly efficient, low emission internal combustion engine for their vehicles to compete with these pie in the sky e-vehicles.
Look at today’s Diesel engines, you can breath the exhaust from these engines with little health risk.

Re: First California, now New York ... [Re: Canvasback2] #7420945
12/03/21 09:32 AM
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Heck I used to love the smell on my old 4-71 50 years ago.......jk


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Re: First California, now New York ... [Re: Canvasback2] #7420947
12/03/21 09:36 AM
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Should be great cutting timber with an electric chainsaw, gonna need a long cord.

Re: First California, now New York ... [Re: Canvasback2] #7420953
12/03/21 09:46 AM
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Zero emission= pluged into a coal, natural gas, or nuke power plant? Thought they want to shut those down. Add in the grid cant handel the increase juce.

Typical democrat planning.

Re: First California, now New York ... [Re: Canvasback2] #7420954
12/03/21 09:48 AM
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What an idiot.

Re: First California, now New York ... [Re: Canvasback2] #7420963
12/03/21 10:01 AM
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why do new yorkers tolerate those draconian gun laws and idiocy from their politicians? should have refused to comply decades ago.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: First California, now New York ... [Re: Canvasback2] #7420973
12/03/21 10:22 AM
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Are the emissions police going to show up if you keep and still use your old gas mower?

Re: First California, now New York ... [Re: Canvasback2] #7421024
12/03/21 12:31 PM
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So by their definition you cant fence it and have cows, or other livestock? I mean , because there will be something getting emitted! HaHa unless they are old!

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Re: First California, now New York ... [Re: newfox1] #7421142
12/03/21 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by newfox1
Should be great cutting timber with an electric chainsaw, gonna need a long cord.

Just a really heavy battery.

Re: First California, now New York ... [Re: Canvasback2] #7421145
12/03/21 04:01 PM
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How long is a battery going to last, blowing this much snow??

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Re: First California, now New York ... [Re: Canvasback2] #7421166
12/03/21 04:28 PM
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Notice it says "bought in state". Bet PA's economy is going to love this bill if passed.

The scariest part of this to me was where they said they will be monitoring it to make sure the folks in the ghettos can afford these new products. So... does that mean the gov't is going to be telling the companies how much they are allowed to charge for their products?


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Re: First California, now New York ... [Re: Canvasback2] #7421188
12/03/21 05:13 PM
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yes saw on news some dimwit said running a 5 hp push mower 30 minutes gave off more emmissions than a car driving 300 mile. really? 1 cylinder vs 4-8 running 800 percent longer

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Re: First California, now New York ... [Re: Canvasback2] #7421690
12/04/21 10:03 AM
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I look at the "mowing of grass" and wonder if some idiot politician from a big city is going to interpret that to mean that farmers can no longer use their old Farmall to mow, rake, bale or pick up the hay from roadside ditches.
This type of legislation might cause a big demand for equipment before laws take effect. More supply chain issues.
I understand the reasoning of this thinking. I'm not sure the data they're using to support their position is accurate or sometimes just made up.


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