Re: I guess not everyone loves them
[Re: AntiGov]
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12/08/21 12:17 AM
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Mike in A-town
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Not a big fan of poisoning things... But the bleeding heart agenda in that story is nauseating.
I'm guessing some rancher got tired of losing stock and fixed it himself... If that's the case, I can't blame him. If the state and federal government would let folks handle depredation problems, people wouldn't feel forced to do stuff like this.
Mike
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Re: I guess not everyone loves them
[Re: AntiGov]
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12/08/21 02:20 AM
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Boco
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Wolves as an apex predator need to be managed.It is more crucial to manage wolves than likely any other animal in the bush. With no management in place there will be more SSS.
Poisoning is indiscriminate-I am against it.
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Re: I guess not everyone loves them
[Re: AntiGov]
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12/08/21 07:54 AM
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Around here it's the elk. G&P brought them in and turned them loose, then shrug their shoulders when they wipe out grain crops in the summer and haystacks in the winter. One farmer had $10000 damage done to one pivot of soybeans. A rancher near Martin SoDak had them eating haystacks. The G&P finally told him "just shoot them." Everybody likes to see them but they eat alot of grain and hay.
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Re: I guess not everyone loves them
[Re: AntiGov]
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12/08/21 11:42 AM
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Bryce Traps
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I'm not against the death by poisoning, but rather that you won't end up with the fur half the time.
Just an 18 year old trapper trying to learn...
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Re: I guess not everyone loves them
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12/08/21 01:50 PM
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Probabaly usda doing the poisoning missed the target of the coyotes though. Highly unlikely and a bad assumption. More like a laced carcass.
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Re: I guess not everyone loves them
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12/08/21 02:19 PM
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Probabaly usda doing the poisoning missed the target of the coyotes though. Highly unlikely and a bad assumption. More like a laced carcass. your usda must be different than ours. but i wouldnt be surprised at a laced carcass either.
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Re: I guess not everyone loves them
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12/08/21 03:14 PM
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CaseXX
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I am a fan of SSS. We don't have wolves of course but we do have lots and lots of coyotes, and feral dogs. We may be unique in the fact we have the advantage of coyotes being dual designation fur animals when in season and nuisance when not, so we are allowed to take them then with whatever means we see fit. It may not be OK with city folk but when you only have few calves each year every one counts.
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Re: I guess not everyone loves them
[Re: Mike in A-town]
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12/08/21 04:09 PM
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Trapper7
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Not a big fan of poisoning things... But the bleeding heart agenda in that story is nauseating.
I'm guessing some rancher got tired of losing stock and fixed it himself... If that's the case, I can't blame him. If the state and federal government would let folks handle depredation problems, people wouldn't feel forced to do stuff like this.
Mike
I see your point. I would rather see wolves trapped or shot. But, if a farmer is losing his livestock to wolves I can understand the farmer has to take drastic measures sometimes when there are no other options. These fanatics would rather see the wolves left alone and tough luck for the farmer.
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Re: I guess not everyone loves them
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12/08/21 04:58 PM
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Dirty D
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Wolves as an apex predator need to be managed.It is more crucial to manage wolves than likely any other animal in the bush.
I would argue that deer need to be managed more than wolves. Deer will destroy the habitat if not kept in check especially when there are no wolves to keep numbers down. Wolves do no harm to the environment and could be argued they are a benefit to the environment by keeping browsers in check.
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Re: I guess not everyone loves them
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12/08/21 07:43 PM
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Wolves as an apex predator need to be managed.It is more crucial to manage wolves than likely any other animal in the bush.
I would argue that deer need to be managed more than wolves. Deer will destroy the habitat if not kept in check especially when there are no wolves to keep numbers down. Wolves do no harm to the environment and could be argued they are a benefit to the environment by keeping browsers in check. Here in Oregon we DO NOT have an over abundance of grazers. And the wolves do tremendous damage to the big game populations that we do have. And when the wild ungalute population is decimated the wolves turn to domestic stock.
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Re: I guess not everyone loves them
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12/08/21 10:32 PM
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X2 newhouse. where I hunt in the ne corner of our state (same unit for 30 + years) you can definitely see the effects of the wolves. It was never a great deer unit but the elk was great. The deer are about the same (more white tails than mulies now) but the elk have suffered horribly. Cougar and bear have also seen increased numbers - i am sure they are also a factor. Only thing worse than the wolves on game here in Oregon is our fish and game department
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