Re: Armed Security in Hospitals
[Re: SGT. C]
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12/12/21 02:10 PM
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danny clifton
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I am happy they are hiring armed guards. What I want to know is what am I supposed to do if some nut job shows up ? Watch Netflix on my phone till they show up? This idea that people are safer depending on someone else is ludicrous. It amazes me how many people are fine with depending on the goodwill of strangers. What would stop armed security from hiding in the parking lot the way that deputy did at the school in Florida?
Signs saying " For Your Safety No Firearms Or Other Weapons Allowed" get me so hot its good I am bald. Else my hair would be on fire.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Armed Security in Hospitals
[Re: SGT. C]
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12/12/21 02:10 PM
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Not to get too sidetracked, but, Really?. I don't think I ever heard that before. I may need to do some research. Must be when they are in the military then, I did read it some where not to long ago, sorry if your research does not match TRex
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Re: Armed Security in Hospitals
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12/12/21 02:12 PM
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The child molester hospital in sioux falls is plastered with no gun signs and security has a taser. I smile as i walk by both with a gun whenever i have an appointment. Idiots. ???????? The major benefactor to one of our hospitals here in SD was accused of having child porn on his computer a few years back he does not even work at the hospital or live in SD full time.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Armed Security in Hospitals
[Re: SGT. C]
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12/12/21 02:14 PM
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danny clifton
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P.S. I have yet to find anybody at the V.A. hospital in Topeka that can explain how I am safer when I am unarmed. I have asked. Multiple administrators. They just make excuses. Get irritated. Tell me their hands are tied. No matter who's in the whitehouse. Big R or Big D the sign stays.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Armed Security in Hospitals
[Re: SGT. C]
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12/12/21 02:18 PM
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In some Scandinavian countries you serve in the military you keep your service weapon and are required to qualify yearly they supply the ammo. Armed Israelis is very common and encouraged there everyone is considered a soldier and are trained.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Armed Security in Hospitals
[Re: SGT. C]
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12/12/21 02:29 PM
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danny clifton
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I wish we did that here. Require everyone with no felony record to be trained with a rifle and small unit unit tactics the summer they turn 18. Three months no pay. Just armed trained civilians. Wash out for anything except physical limitations or low IQ and lose the right to vote or have a government job. Our military is too big and to expensive. Time to concentrate on U.S. defense. If Europeans and the Japanese want our troops to remain, let them pay 100% of the cost.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Armed Security in Hospitals
[Re: SGT. C]
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12/12/21 02:33 PM
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Got a little story about being "threatened" with hospital security...
Late February 2020 my wife had surgery and returned home. A couple of weeks later she apparently thrashed enough in her sleep to tear her stitches loose and started bleeding. I rushed her back to the hospital and had to help her walk into the ER. At that point she was in shock... Blood was pouring from her body and she was vomiting.
We get in the ER lobby and I shouted for help. The receptionist looked up and told us to have a seat so she could get some info. I declined. Again, I insisted that my wife be seen immediately. My wife is getting very weak and sat down in the chair. And this idiot starts in with the usual questions... Name, address, social security number...
I lost it. I screamed at her, "We don't have time for your stupid @&#$+ paperwork! She's bleeding to death and needs to be seen right now!"
She looks at me and says, "Sir, if you yell at me again I will have to call security."
I looked her dead in the eye and calmly said, "That's fine. Tell him to bring a friend. He's going to need one."
An ER nurse heard the commotion and came out to see what was going on. Saw my wife, put her in a wheelchair and told me to follow her. We got back into a stall and they started working on my wife. Got her stable enough and sent her up for emergency surgery.
After they took her up I went to the waiting room. A bit later the security guard came through on his rounds... Dude must've been 90 years old. LOL
Do hospitals need security? Sure. But if you don't hire idiots who are more worried about paperwork than someone actively hemorrhaging to death... You might not have to call security as often.
Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
Vladimir Lenin
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Re: Armed Security in Hospitals
[Re: SGT. C]
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12/12/21 05:46 PM
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Chicago has always had cops in the hospitals working at all times day and night. I carry mine all the time here in SD never had a issue with it at any hospital I go into.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Armed Security in Hospitals
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12/12/21 06:00 PM
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The child molester hospital in sioux falls is plastered with no gun signs and security has a taser. I smile as i walk by both with a gun whenever i have an appointment. Idiots. Serious question- why do you have an appointment at a "child molester" hospital? Haha. Ya after reading that…its not a hospital for child molesters, its named after an “alleged pervert”.
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Re: Armed Security in Hospitals
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12/12/21 06:13 PM
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It has been the norm in many bigger city hospitals for many years.
it is definitely getting a lot more common even in much smaller cities
people are getting very angry at the medical establishment
as some one of my friends said recently her son is an ER doc finishing up his residency , "So much for for social Media , it hasn't made any one more social , it has made them Less social , people don't even know how to interact with each other any more." it was a general statment about new employees , workers we see places , the younger generations ,
if the kids of the 80s were the ME generation this group is the ME ME MEME ME ME MEME ME generation.
I can't blame them for wanting security that can do something more than call the police
it seems like there is a police cruiser parked at the Monroe hospital nearly every time I go to the ER at night , which isn't that often once twice a year but they are there probably a lot more than that.
Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 12/12/21 06:15 PM.
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Re: Armed Security in Hospitals
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12/12/21 06:15 PM
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As long as I can remember , armed police were in hospitals . Even the little village I live in has armed officers , more so visible now than before also . Yes drugs are attracting some very scary uncaring individuals to where there's a plentiful supply . You never know how some people are either on drugs or with head trauma .
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Re: Armed Security in Hospitals
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12/12/21 08:25 PM
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Appreciate all the comments.
I will say again. Don't be surprised if you don't see more armed security in hospitals in the near future.
Also, if you come to South Carolina, You will see it. Guaranteed! Sarge
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