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Re: canning venison ? [Re: Marty] #7437455
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Originally Posted by Marty
2 things I need info about. Do the 5-10-15 jigglers made by mirro-matic fit the presto canner?

I also would appreciate a recipe for gravy using the liquid from the venison canning jars....thick gravy.

Thanks much fellas!

My 23 quart Presto came with a gauge on it and a 15 lb pressure weight.I bought the weight that adjust from 5/10/15 lbs for it,,because most of my canning is done at 10 lbs.The adjustable weight is available on line.


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Re: canning venison ? [Re: Marty] #7437465
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Trapset.. do you vent for ten minutes before you put your weight on?


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Re: canning venison ? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7437476
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By the way, for those that use the pressure gage it is important to make sure it is callabrated, around here our county extension office does it. We have ours checked every 2 or 3 yrs.


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Re: canning venison ? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7437500
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Trapset.. do you vent for ten minutes before you put your weight on?


I donít think I make it the full 10 minutes most times. I really should. I usually wait a few minutes after I have a steady stream then pop the weight on. I go longer if canner is not full of jars. An old timer once told me it takes longer to vent when your canner has less jars in it. He said the 10 minutes was for 1-2 jars so the recommendation was to cover all situations from 1 jar to full.

I am always telling people to follow the book and dont listen to internet advice, so I have to recommend the full 10 minutes and should be doing so myself. But I donít always do it. Sound Familiar? Lol

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I just purchased a presto 50332 5,10,15 pound adjustable weight. My models of Prestos, 23 quart model (01781) and 18 quart model (01751) are not listed as working with it but a canning site said they fit. Here's the site https://www.healthycanning.com/presto-pressure-canner-3-piece-regulator-weight/ . I'll post how it works when it gets here. It says on the site some people add washers to get to 11-12 pounds. Might try it.

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Originally Posted by Trapset
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Trapset.. do you vent for ten minutes before you put your weight on?


I donít think I make it the full 10 minutes most times. I really should. I usually wait a few minutes after I have a steady stream then pop the weight on. I go longer if canner is not full of jars. An old timer once told me it takes longer to vent when your canner has less jars in it. He said the 10 minutes was for 1-2 jars so the recommendation was to cover all situations from 1 jar to full.

I am always telling people to follow the book and dont listen to internet advice, so I have to recommend the full 10 minutes and should be doing so myself. But I donít always do it. Sound Familiar? Lol


The only reason I ask, is because you mentioned having a hard time regulating the pressure. From my experience, (and don't ask why because I don't know), but venting for the full 10 minutes makes the pressure easier to regulate afterwards. Just try it, lol.


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Re: canning venison ? [Re: Trapset] #7437580
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Originally Posted by Trapset
I just purchased a presto 50332 5,10,15 pound adjustable weight. My models of Prestos, 23 quart model (01781) and 18 quart model (01751) are not listed as working with it but a canning site said they fit. Here's the site https://www.healthycanning.com/presto-pressure-canner-3-piece-regulator-weight/ . I'll post how it works when it gets here. It says on the site some people add washers to get to 11-12 pounds. Might try it.

There ya go.Dont add washers,,just turn the flame up a tad.Do enough canning and youl have it down to a science.Main reason I bought the weights,,is so I don't have to babysit the canner gauge as much.Still got to keep an eye on it,,but the ten pound weight helps A LOT.Good luck.

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Re: canning venison ? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7437584
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Trapset.. do you vent for ten minutes before you put your weight on?

Venting for ten min. gets rid of all the trapped air in the canner,,so the canner is up to proper pressure before processing time begins. smile


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Re: canning venison ? [Re: Marty] #7437641
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Thanks! I'll go back to venting the whole 10 min.

Re: canning venison ? [Re: Marty] #7437651
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Originally Posted by Marty
2 things I need info about. Do the 5-10-15 jigglers made by mirro-matic fit the presto canner?

I also would appreciate a recipe for gravy using the liquid from the venison canning jars....thick gravy.

Thanks much fellas!



You need to order the valve stem with the weight .
Yes they're interchangeable , maybe not the mirro matic , but Presto will except the AA stem and weight .
I have replaced them a few times
Here's where I got mine .just look up the AA parts , I replaced the stem and added the Presto 15 pound weight years ago from a spigot to the weight .
This summer I changed the 15 pound weight to the 3 way weight on my AA 941 canners , they had the presto 15 pound weight on them when I changed to the weight instead of the spigot years ago .
All my canners have dial and weight gauges .


https://www.cookingandcanning.net/naprcomo14.html



As for gravy , heat up like mentioned above , and use clear gel or therm flo , I get both at the local Amish store .
For 1/5 the cost of what's on Amazon . I now just get the therm flo because it's the same but the cheaper of the two .
Both are better for canning pie fillings and gravies .
DO NOT GET THE INSTANT ! It breaks down when reheated , the regular doesn't .

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Re: canning venison ? [Re: Trapset] #7437666
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Originally Posted by Trapset
I just purchased a presto 50332 5,10,15 pound adjustable weight. My models of Prestos, 23 quart model (01781) and 18 quart model (01751) are not listed as working with it but a canning site said they fit. Here's the site https://www.healthycanning.com/presto-pressure-canner-3-piece-regulator-weight/ . I'll post how it works when it gets here. It says on the site some people add washers to get to 11-12 pounds. Might try it.



That's the third weight that I have seen like that .
All you need to do is get the weight , don't need to change the stem .
Good deal and information .
Found it , thanks for the part number .

https://www.cookingandcanning.net/pr50prcaprre.html

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Re: canning venison ? [Re: Trapset] #7441507
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Originally Posted by Trapset
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Originally Posted by Marty
2 things I need info about. Do the 5-10-15 jigglers made by mirro-matic fit the presto canner?
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I also would appreciate a recipe for gravy using the liquid from the venison canning jars....thick gravy.

Thanks much fellas!


No, it wonít fit. You would have to change the stem too. Not sure if the threads on stem are the same though. You most likely need to be at 11-12 pounds for your elevation for pressure canning so the 5/10/15 may not help you much.


Thanks for the info trapset.

So, how does cooking at a few #'s over for the recommended time effect the results?


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Re: canning venison ? [Re: Marty] #7441563
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At sea level 15 pounds kills botulism spores. I go to 18. My all american canner is safe to 20. It has a gauge no wobbler. I still simmer any potato's carrots fish or meat before eating, but I feel its a bit safer. Botulism kills people every year. IMO the taste and quality is the same as canning at 10 pounds.


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