On the attached posts if you scroll down from from the actual shooting.

It would be easier to identify the posts if you identified the idiots by screen name.

Ah...gotcha...that makes more sense. You're referring to these type of comments. Considering Reddit can be pretty liberal I was surprised the amount of support the kid got from the vast majority of other commenters and how the majority feels that the robber got what he deserved.

Philly sucks big time--being armed makes sense. There are two places in this country (other than routine nonsense here) where I have had almost violent encounters on the street with strangers. Philly and Newark.

However, it's not a good idea for just any 14 year old to carry a pistol. My 14 year old son carries an AR15 on his ATV while working by himself at our farm--to shoot at hogs. My teenage daughters carry pistols in their pickups at times. Big difference. They have grown up around it and have lots of time with weapons. And, they understand the consequences of pulling the trigger.

Each case determined on how the kid used it should be how the parents are looked at.

Poor parenting, probably gonna be a bad outcome and visa-versa.

on the subject of crazy stuff that doesn't fully incapacitate people

this guy is in a standoff with I think Russian police and drops a grenade at his feet

wait for it , he wakes up and starts moving at about 30 seconds post blast

https://funker530.com/video/nsfw-su...OLUgSW2xNowTtVaO9SMXQhC6trlu8W3R5dH9NXP0

That’s some cold blooded (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) right there. I don’t disagree with having a gun at the business but having a 14 year old packing it in his waist band?

If a democrat gun grabber can use any event to further the cause, they're similar. Even if they have to lie about or make up facts....

Perhaps excitement caused the kid to shoot a little low, other than that looks like that 14 year old did alright. When he gets his gun back or gets a new one, some range time and draw practice will have him on par with anyone here.

Not to be arguing, but maybe the 14year old grew up around firearms? Maybe he was afraid the cash register lady was in great harm by some POS thug taking the cash tray and busting her skull open with it? Maybe these POS thugs had been causing trouble before? I do feel bad for the 14 year old though. His life is just getting ready to be turned upside down by some POS liberal's at city hall!!! The 14 year old did his community a favor!! It is sad when a hard working family has to be assaulted by POS thugs, be it from the streets or the local city hall. The video will be used to spin the outcome of this against the 14 year old. Remember this, I've said it before on here that there are members on this site that vote for the same type POS liberals down at the 14 year olds city hall! That's a fact. BC, I'm not trying to berate you for it sounds like your (responsible) kids carry firearms to kill hogs and other varmints. This 14 year old carried one to protect his life, his mom's life, and their hard working way of life!

We're generally saying the same thing. No argument here. I'm just not ready to endorse any 14 year old carrying in public. As for the thug, I'm not concerned about one, or all, getting popped.

The DA will go after him and his parents most likely. It will argue excessive force because of no imminent bodily harm. And a Philly jury might just convict.

Kid did right. Doesn't matter what some worthless bureaucrat thinks... If the DA had done his job prior to this then the thug might not have wound up as cooling meat in a subway station.

One less piece of garbage terrorizing a community.

Mike

I agree BC. It is unfortunate.

that is just it he wasn't carrying in public , he was carrying in his parents business it is private property not public.

a 14yo carrying concealed on the street would be a violation of law in most places.

a 14year old defending family in a family business is more like the 9, 10 , 11 , 12, 13 year old that shoots the home invader while parents are out.

he is behind the counter an employees and family only space separated from the public portion of the store.
if his parents were running a bait shop from the from the garage in their yard , rethink of it like that.

what ends up happening is when there is a law that prohibits your defense it is ruled unconstitutional as it applied to you in that event

before WI had CCL people carried concealed , and people had to use their weapon

one good example was a pizza delivery guy in the Milwaukee area he was carrying is gun I think IWB appendix , thugs had called in a pizza to be delivered to a house where they waited in the bushes for pizza guy to arrive , knowing he would have dropped off several pies by the time he got to that address late in the night.
to be legal at that time he would have technically had to have his gun unloaded in the trunk , exit the car , load and holster open carrying , deliver the pizza , then return to the trunk unload and case then go back to the cab and drive away
because the guy was jumped as he exited the car there would have been no way to both defend himself and follow the low , thus the law does not apply to him at that time.

this 14 year old was supervised by his mother in a private space even if it was a restaurant


it will come down to what did the kid know in that moment , there was just a case where they covered shooting an armed guy starting at 55 feet the guy advanded through 2 cops shooting form 55 to 18 feet before collapsing he made it 37 feet.
the argument was that the police should not have started shooting till 21 feet , aka the tuller drill
the reality is that the answer that Tuller gave to a students question was never a set time or distance it was however a suggestion that at 21 feet even if you can shoot 2 rounds perfectly center mass in under 1.5 seconds the person will be on you and 86% of the time able to get a significant wound or death of the defender
the ruling was that 21 feet is not a set anything it is always a case of the threat and clearly 2 cops firing form 55 to 18 feet was 37 feet much longer than 21 nearly double


because this was a close contact at arms reach the threat is real even if it is just hands and feet. waiting for him to punch , kick , cut ,the mother isn't necessary , pushing over the counter and grabbing with intent to do harm to take the cash box from her should more than meet the threshold.

Robbers should be treated the same as horse thieves back in the day. Today robbers aren't even concerned about the consequences of their action as they know there's no penalty. Free room and board, medical and dental at the worst.

By the time any one of my kids was 14 I felt safer around them armed than I do with several adults I know. Got a few friends with kids still in that age group that I feel the same way about.

A 14 year old, working at his families business, a business that's largely cash, and some of you whining about him being armed?

I feel sorry for the kid. He did the right thing but is about to go through hades for having done it.

Just because he isn't a farm kid doesn't mean he hasn't grown up around guns or doesn't know how handle them. Heck...that kid did better than most "trained" adults would. Only allowing country kids to have guns and baring them from city kids is a Democrat idea.

It's less likely but you could be right Pike.

The problem with sending violent criminals to prison instead of the noose is that prison teaches them how to become a better criminal. They have thousands of exercises in what not to do. If we would just remove these people from the planet, and make sure it is real justice not Goodhue County MN justice, then we would be much better off.

How do you know the kid was a good kid?

Most fourteen year olds walking around with a piece in their waste band are gang bangers.
How do you know he isn’t one of those?

He sure looked comfortable shooting that guy in the head.

Cover story “attacker was choking his mother” I watched that video three times I sure don’t see the attacker attacking or choking the mother at all. He was trying to empty the cash drawer.

Don’t get me wrong Iam not siding with the robber. But is 2 or 300$ dollars worth killing a man over? When I watch that video I don’t see one perp, I see two.