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Prime vs un prime coyote #7446044
12/30/21 09:11 PM
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Two coyotes. One November 1st the other November 27th. Caught within 5 miles of each other. 3 weeks makes a big difference.
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Re: Prime vs un prime coyote [Re: saskbone] #7446052
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Yeah that is a big diff...now looking for "neck rubbed" I have NO idea what that means (in the grand scheme of things)!


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Re: Prime vs un prime coyote [Re: saskbone] #7446060
12/30/21 09:19 PM
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Not for sure on this but even if that left one was caught on the 27th, I think it would still look the same?


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Re: Prime vs un prime coyote [Re: saskbone] #7446071
12/30/21 09:27 PM
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Do all of them get long guard hairs?
Here some of ours have I think flat fur genetics, the whole body has about the same length fur.
But then up north maybe the short fur ones die out fast

Re: Prime vs un prime coyote [Re: saskbone] #7446160
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I can do up a few more from early November and they will look the same. Those two in the first pic are in the bottom pic for comparison but the picture isn’t as close as it should be. Where I am the coyotes will all have long fur in December. There could be an exception but it’s very rare. Weather is - 30 to -37 at night right now they need that long fur. It’s kind of like the pics of the mangey ones, the ones that have no fur don’t make it through our cold weather. I still catch mangey ones but they have a few patches of fur missing or else the cold takes them.

Re: Prime vs un prime coyote [Re: saskbone] #7446211
12/31/21 12:00 AM
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Peak time in my country is nov.20th to dec.20th before the 20th nov. Will still get semi plus types, after dec 20th you start seeing barbs or hooks on the hair ends.


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Re: Prime vs un prime coyote [Re: saskbone] #7446260
12/31/21 01:38 AM
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That's one reason, cold temps, and your coyote genetics are great
That is a big difference, some of ours never get longer

Re: Prime vs un prime coyote [Re: saskbone] #7446297
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I need one of those beauties!
Ours are flat, dirty colored, with short fur.
I see one nice one about every other year.


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Re: Prime vs un prime coyote [Re: saskbone] #7446338
12/31/21 07:26 AM
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thanks for taking the time for posting comparisons


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Re: Prime vs un prime coyote [Re: saskbone] #7446398
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Nice looking coyotes. Thanks for sharing the pics. I agree, our recent ones look better than ones from early November.

Re: Prime vs un prime coyote [Re: saskbone] #7446415
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Dont forget there is individual differences within each and every species to. Some of us are tall and others are just fat, for example.......jk


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Re: Prime vs un prime coyote [Re: saskbone] #7446433
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Here’s a better one.

I can’t remember the exact dates, but they were taken from the exact same set exactly 20 days apart (first week of November and last week of November). Judging by their size and color, I’d bet good money they were litter mates.

If you have a good pup population and start in October, you’re way to early.

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Big mature males get heavy here those are the nicest one. Sometimes mature females. Young of year never seem to fill out, stay semi.


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Re: Prime vs un prime coyote [Re: Boone Liane] #7446669
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Originally Posted by Boone Liane
Here’s a better one.

I can’t remember the exact dates, but they were taken from the exact same set exactly 20 days apart (first week of November and last week of November). Judging by their size and color, I’d bet good money they were litter mates.

If you have a good pup population and start in October, you’re way to early.

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Exactly right imo


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12/31/21 01:51 PM
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This was a ,,,what I would call a garment coyote .caught couple years ago .


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12/31/21 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by red mt
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This was a ,,,what I would call a garment coyote .caught couple years ago .


Beauty. I’d like to have a pair of those for a garment I’d like to have made. Haven’t seen many like that in the states, those I did see were up off the hi line in MT.

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Re: Prime vs un prime coyote [Re: red mt] #7446736
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Originally Posted by red mt
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This was a ,,,what I would call a garment coyote .caught couple years ago .


I don't think I have ever seen a coyote like that. Looks beautiful from that picture


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Red has had some REALLY NICE coyote put up pictures over the years,those high line coyotes are something else.Can't remember the year the 80's I think there was a cover shot of a trapper from Garrison MT on The Voice of the Trapper back then NTA magazine that had the nicest salt/pepper coyotes I don't know if the trapper had got them around Garrison or if they came from the high line just had his name which I can not remember and said he was from Garrison MT.They looked like a half a dozen or more of Red's best that he has posted over the years.

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Well those are not highline coyotes,,,gents those western Montana coyotes.
What I mean about a garment type anything is that you will notice the fur length is all the same.
Those type are inside of 1 to 1 1/2 weeks a year and this happens any where you get (true) heavy fur.
As far as hiline I do not venture up that way been to central Montana trapping . There just like western Montana pockets of good ones and bad those type and next type I'll show are 1to3 in a hundred imo.
Thank you for compliments much appreciated.


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These are 6 out about 140 I believe it was.
Imo just like lot things in life you sort through any one thing to find a few good .
Then you try your darndest to to not to mess things up.
Happy New Years guys and gals

I would like to ADD one thing these all get washed imo makes them easier to flesh also. Get burrs out without pulling fur or breaking long guard hairs off and when you break hair or pull fur out any buyer worth his salt will Mark them as a SLIGHT.

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