No ice or snow here in southern Michigan to speak of yet this winter. They used to cut ice from the local lake every year to use in ice chests throughout the year. We haven't had enough ice to do that but maybe 2 years out of the last 15.

Got another truck load of wood in last night. Supposed to be cold for a few days then back to the thirties and forty's again for highs. Don’t think winter will ever kick in in earnest this year, south of the jet stream!

Heck of a winter here so far.

Always remember what the former Secretary of the Interior said......................." We can't just let nature run wild. " Walter Hickel

Heading for -28 or so up here tonight again. As with every other winter there will be some -40 or so coming in the next month.
Still beats being a constant 63 degrees 6 feet under.

Osky

Looks like change is going to come quickly

I can remember the late 70's and the forecast of an ice age that was going to kill us all like the dinosaurs. Ice age coming

You're right on that,...it will come round robin again!

The climate and ecosystem cycles will forever be with the earth and with what or whom will be living at those times, past, present and future. We think in terms of seconds, days, years, life times, backyards or neighbor's yards and the natural system marches to a completely different time frame or time line. Of the many issues we face as the climate changes do we want to invest massively in infrastructure protection and change to save the infrastructure we have, or let those regions be impaired or destroyed and build totally new infrastructure in other regions? We also need to deal with the impact of having a half billion people in lower coastal , delta and estuary regions that will need to move and the billion or so more that will be here by that time. We may not like to have these persons encroaching on our more rural, less densely populated areas if we can help it.

One of the advantages that the developing nations have over the Western more developed nations is that with the digital age they never had to lay down costly communication type infrastructure and can adjust actually faster than many developed countries provided they have the revenues to do so. These nations are now markets for developed nations and that means over time wealth will be coming their way.

Bryce

All due respect, and let it be known that I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer, I just read a whole bunch of words, but I find myself wanting of a cogent point from all of this. Maybe you aren't finished yet. If not, I'll come back in 3-4 days once I recover from the loss of brain cells from attempting to unravel this riddle.

Thats pretty cold Dave-hope Robert hasn't turned into an icicle,lol.
Been a milder winter here so far with lots of snow,but we had a couple day melt mid dec otherwise we would have about 4 feet by now.