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Arm chair Hay Set (Tutorial) Updated 1-20-22 #7449050
01/02/22 05:41 PM
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I thought I would take a minute to show how I make my Arm-Chair Hay Set. I was first shown the (2-trap) “Wedge” type hay set by Allen Claycomb (PA) probably 20 years ago and that set caught plenty of fox. I started playing around and found that by making an “Arm-chair” design, I could make the set quicker, only use 1 trap and focus the K9 in the direction I wanted. The set takes seconds to make and has caught a lot of fox and some coyotes for me over the years. It’s my go to for setting in sloppy/wet weather as there is no bedding or dirt involved. You can vary this set as you want, but I make the “Arm-chair” out of hay or straw (whatever is available. I sink a cable anchor attached to a #3 (bigger the better) trap with my trap of choice lately has been #3 rubber jaw to minimize angry pet owners. I cover the inside of the armchair (and over the trap) with dried grass clippings I collect over the summer. Grass seems to allow the trap to close more efficiently and makes K9’s more comfortable to put their feet in. I lure at 10 & 2 o-clock in the back and put fox urine in the back at 12-o’clock. Set done, quick and easy. I Hope this helps somebody out there catch some fur . Dave Z
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Re: Arm chair Hay Set (Tutorial) w-pics [Re: Maine man] #7449053
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Good to see you post Maineman, I am sure this will help lots of canine trappers, thanks for posting.


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Re: Arm chair Hay Set (Tutorial) w-pics [Re: Maine man] #7449081
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Great post!


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Re: Arm chair Hay Set (Tutorial) w-pics [Re: Maine man] #7449085
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Nice tutorial thanks


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Re: Arm chair Hay Set (Tutorial) w-pics [Re: Maine man] #7449090
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Good post!


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Re: Arm chair Hay Set (Tutorial) w-pics [Re: Maine man] #7449100
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I remember when "Creekboy" shared the original version of this set and the reasons it worked on HPA. I copied and pasted every word! LOL

I used it a good bit years ago. The only modification I made was using two stakes, one for each trap to keep one fox from getting in both traps. I caught a good number of fox with it.

Don't use it much anymore but it is a good set under certain circumstances. I might have to try your variation.


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Re: Arm chair Hay Set (Tutorial) w-pics [Re: Maine man] #7449112
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So what keeps the trap from tipping if it steps on the jaws?

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Excellent post! Thanks for sharing the information.

Re: Arm chair Hay Set (Tutorial) w-pics [Re: Maine man] #7449140
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Stanly Hawbaker had a set similar to that made out of horse manure .
I used it for a few years with very good success .
Until trap thieves found out what it was.
I used to check traps twice a day , I worked nights , would check on the way home , and again in the morning .
Had an non target in one , remade it and had a red fox in the morning .
All I ever used was urine on it . A smelling post .

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Re: Arm chair Hay Set (Tutorial) w-pics [Re: Maine man] #7449141
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I use hay sets almost exclusively during the winter months when ground is frozen solid :-)


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Re: Arm chair Hay Set (Tutorial) w-pics [Re: Wanna Be] #7449280
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
So what keeps the trap from tipping if it steps on the jaws?


Trap placement. Nothing is 100% but select a location that is somewhat level for your trap. If you need to, you can hit the ground with your hammer to create a slight "indent" allowing you to "set and twist" your trap flat. the beauty of the set is it's simplicity. ANYONE can catch a K9 with this set. You can set this using only Fox urine in the back of the set. (or add lure) Remakes are fast. Just recreate the arm-chair out of the hay on the ground, reset the trap and cover with grass clippings, lure, urine and go.


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Here`s a video of hay sets for coyotes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avVM93wc-98

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Originally Posted by Maine man
Originally Posted by Wanna Be
So what keeps the trap from tipping if it steps on the jaws?


Trap placement. Nothing is 100% but select a location that is somewhat level for your trap. If you need to, you can hit the ground with your hammer to create a slight "indent" allowing you to "set and twist" your trap flat. the beauty of the set is it's simplicity. ANYONE can catch a K9 with this set. You can set this using only Fox urine in the back of the set. (or add lure) Remakes are fast. Just recreate the arm-chair out of the hay on the ground, reset the trap and cover with grass clippings, lure, urine and go.

Thanks! Made one this evening, but bedded it.

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Excellent share. Thanks
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Have not seen him post anywhere for ages. Does anyone know how he is doing?


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This is a neat set. Now I need to find some hay.


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Re: Arm chair Hay Set (Tutorial) w-pics [Re: Maine man] #7451338
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I caught this red fox this morning in the Arm-Chair Hay Set I made in the post above. Remade the set in about 60 seconds. This is my favorite cold weather (no bed) set. Dave Z

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Good post. I do a set similar for coyotes with peat moss as covering. I dig a trap bed though. If I had brush or any trees instead of open prairie I’d use a drag.


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Wished it didn’t blow 15-25 mph nearly every day here. Would be a nice addition to the bag of tricks.


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Reminds me of what we, I call a chaff pile set. As we walk across a bean field out in middle, find row with heavy chaff row take your boot scrape row into pile bout 2 ft. Tall, that's your visual attractor, pound depression with mash hammer put trap in depression, crunch up and straighten out wax paper for pan cover, cover trap with stubble, urin on side of pile. Very cold out, then lure on top. Walk away. Check from distance, if pile gone go look fox or now coyote laying behind stuff. Got a few out now. Great post, thanks.
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Re: Arm chair Hay Set (Tutorial) w-pics [Re: Maine man] #7454333
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Great post Dave as always.

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