Suppressors?
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What are the benefits other then lower noise? I normally hunt with ear puffs, so, this will not help. How much noise is eliminated? I have no experience with them.
Do you find the game is less spooky after the shot. Do the other deer run off and or come back?
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Re: Suppressors?
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They make EXCELLENT “muzzle breaks”, greatly reduce felt recoil. And they reduce muzzle report whereas breaks augment it.
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Re: Suppressors?
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A good suppressor on a 308 Winchester, will reduce muzzle noise by about 80% and recoil by about the same. Smaller the cartridge more reduction. Depending on the surroundings game will not be as "spooked" by the suppressed shot but it varies from situation to situation.
When shooting across snow here in the west most times the animals never realize what happened. Animals still hear the supersonic "crack" of the bullet, and it spooks them more than the shot.
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Re: Suppressors?
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A friend and I were walking into an area to hunt coyotes, when we spot a pair of them ahead of us on the road, walking into the same area we were going. We snuck in as close as we could and got set up just behind a small hill the coyotes had JUST gone over. One of the coyotes came back over that hill for some reason, and he was lights out. Not 20 seconds after that coyote got put down, the other one ALSO came back over the hill to see what his buddy was up to. Then he was lights out. Both my buddy and I ran a suppressor that day, and I firmly believe we got the second coyote because of it. I've seen my accuracy improve ever so slightly with a suppressor on the rifle....so slightly though, it may just be from a little more time behind the trigger.
*Note* - If you plan on using it mostly on a .22 cal centerfire, but could possibly see yourself using it on something bigger down the road, just get a .30 cal can right off the bat. Mine is a dedicated .22 cal can, as I believed it would suppress noise even better if it was caliber specific. Now after using it and hearing my friends .30 cal can on his .223, I don't think I can tell the difference, at least not well enough to say the caliber-specific can is any better.
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If you are using a good one on a .22 long rifle and using subsonic ammunition you will mostly only hear the snap of the firing pin and the thud of the bullet when it strikes.
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Re: Suppressors?
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Form 4's are going fully E-File. New word is 90–120-day, approval. Good gunsmith, threading no issue. My smith is $40 for one gun, $30 ea for multiples Builders are getting more into interchangeable end caps. I run a .30 can on everything from .17's to my 30-338. Anymore I don't shoot a rifle unless there is a can on the end.
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A good can will start at $700+/-, plus $200 for the tax stamp. Then any possible transfer fees from your receiving dealer.
I have some that are a $1400 investment and some that are $800. Trust or Individual stamp still costs the same. A trust takes more time but yes it belongs to the family as opposed to you alone.
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A good can will start at $700+/-, plus $200 for the tax stamp. Then any possible transfer fees from your receiving dealer.
I have some that are a $1400 investment and some that are $800. Trust or Individual stamp still costs the same. A trust takes more time but yes it belongs to the family as opposed to you alone.
That's not bad at all. Also heard of them having a life span before having to be rebuilt. Not planning on using it for a prairie dog or blasting gun. What is the appx life on them?
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Suppressors diffuse the report of the shot. Makes it more difficult to tell what direction the shot came from. Roy
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I can shoot our 243,7mm08, and 260 without ear pro. Recoil is reduced about 30% when one of the kids shoots a deer 400 yards away from me i am not sure if it was them or someone else that shot 3/4 of a mile away on another farm tell they txt me. Game reactions vary just like reactions to being shot. But less noise is always better.
Ar platforms dont supress as well and need ear pro if shooting several shoots but are still much better than without. They also may need an adjustiable gas block to reduce being over gassed. My blackout need this its very over gased.
All of mine are on a trust. Those listed on my trust can have them just the same as I can when i am not around. But add them on after your fourm are aproved so you dont have to send in prints and picts of each one of them.
I have heard the bullet impact hollow drum sound like it sound when you shoot a deer with a bow when the kids shoot them with a rifle. It nice.
.22lr with sv ammo and a suppressor is one fun tree rat hunt. I hear a clik pff and the smack of the bullet hitting it and it hitting the ground. Bullet impact is louder than the shot and about the same as hitting the ground.
I love to shoot and have ny own 500 yard range but no longer like shooting if Icant shoot quietly.
The wait on your first one is the worst.
Not all supressers are equal in construction, design, and sound reduction. Db reduction is also only part of it. Tone and pitch play a big roll in how loud a shot sounds. One can meter louder than another but sound more quiet. Its best to get to hear a lot of them in person at the same time. Hard to do unless you can make it to a sound meatering event like NFA talk host. I hosted one at my range on my farm for a few years but not last year.
Some are full auto and magnmum rated others have limits. Like min barrel length cal ect.
I stay away from Al made products. All of mine are Ti. Stainless is nice but weighs more.
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NFA talk .org has lots of info. Im Duce there. Feel free to ask any more questions. Heck no one has even got in to mounting options. Ie direct thread, qa, tomb.. nelson devices and on..
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I love them, I have a 7.62/.30 cal. that is titanium and works on anything .300 WM and smaller. No ear protection needed and added accuracy. The ATF updated the online form 4 and they say approval times should be 90 days.
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Silencer shop will sell/ do a oneshot trust for about 25 bucks and send everything in for you and ship the can to a local dealer for you to pick up when it's approved.
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I love them, I have a 7.62/.30 cal. that is titanium and works on anything .300 WM and smaller. No ear protection needed and added accuracy. The ATF updated the online form 4 and they say approval times should be 90 days. Is that for trust? I need to send in some more fourms. I need 4 more .30 cal cans and 4 mor .22 lr. Been putting it off a few years but everyone in the family needs at least one of those each.
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I love them, I have a 7.62/.30 cal. that is titanium and works on anything .300 WM and smaller. No ear protection needed and added accuracy. The ATF updated the online form 4 and they say approval times should be 90 days. Is that for trust? I need to send in some more fourms. I need 4 more .30 cal cans and 4 mor .22 lr. Been putting it off a few years but everyone in the family needs at least one of those each. Yes, they have another trust option for 6 cans, it's something like 125.00 for that trust. Silencershop.com lots of information about trusts and buying a suppressor.
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