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Trapping on Mormon Church property #7451168
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One of my coworkers is Mormon, an honest practicing mormon. I asked him today if the church owns property, besides the land the churches are on. He said yes. They have farms, ranches, etc. I'm assuming that some of the places they own is, or could be good trapping. I'm also assuming that the church doesn't just own land in Utah.
So my question is, do any of you trap on Mormon church land? Do you know anyone who traps on church land? Looking for anyone who might have experience/info on this subject.
TIA

Re: Trapping on Mormon Church property [Re: martentrapper] #7451266
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I know a guy that was a rep for a large feed company. He never said anything about how much land the Mormon church owned but he did say they were one of the largest cattle owners in the US. I would assume that owning a lot of livestock required owning a lot of land as well and not just in

This was several years ago

Re: Trapping on Mormon Church property [Re: martentrapper] #7451276
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Largest cow/calf operation in the country by a long ways the last time I looked. They bought a ranch east of me a few years ago. If I wanted to trap it I would go ask the guy that manages it. Boss has met him and some guys I know have day worked for him. There's a family of Mormons we neighbor to that own their ground and manage a ton of other range land owned by individuals in the Mormon Church. Nice approach able people. Reasonably sure they would give me permission if I'd ask especially if I offered to help some during shipping.

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Re: Trapping on Mormon Church property [Re: martentrapper] #7451278
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If you're Mormon and paying you're 10% that would go a long ways toward getting in. whistle

Re: Trapping on Mormon Church property [Re: martentrapper] #7451279
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I know of some Mormons who have a hunting lease (for guiding) on a 20,000 acre spread owned by the Mormon church in Utah. I seriously doubt that anyone other than a mormon would be able to strike that deal.
Trapping?? I don't know about a non-mormon gaining access, particularly if a mormon church member wanted to trap the same piece of ground. They are pretty protective of their own kind.


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Re: Trapping on Mormon Church property [Re: waggler] #7451292
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Originally Posted by waggler
I know of some Mormons who have a hunting lease (for guiding) on a 20,000 acre spread owned by the Mormon church in Utah. I seriously doubt that anyone other than a mormon would be able to strike that deal.
Trapping?? I don't know about a non-mormon gaining access, particularly if a mormon church member wanted to trap the same piece of ground. They are pretty protective of their own kind.

I'd agree with that. A Mormon would have first right. Around here their just isn't very many to compete with.

Re: Trapping on Mormon Church property [Re: martentrapper] #7451296
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The way I understand it a good mormon deeds all his land to the church. Think taxes. Think control. The guy doing the deeding lives there and treats it like his own but it belongs to the church. All money goes to the church. The church gives it back as charity.


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Re: Trapping on Mormon Church property [Re: martentrapper] #7451301
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Re: Trapping on Mormon Church property [Re: martentrapper] #7451325
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I know a guy whis a Mormon. They're non profit but charge high dolllar for deer and elk hunts and theyd never let him hunt..even though Hes a Brother

They raise a crapload of cattle too. I always. Wondered if they distribute the meat to the church members since theyre mom profit?


IF IDIOTS GREW ON TREES THIS PLACE WOULD BE AN ORCHARD !

Re: Trapping on Mormon Church property [Re: cathryn] #7451332
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Originally Posted by cathryn
I know a guy whis a Mormon. They're non profit but charge high dolllar for deer and elk hunts and thwyd never let him hunt..even though Hes a Brother


A nonprofit? They make billions, it's more like organized crime than a nonprofit.

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Originally Posted by BernieB.
Originally Posted by cathryn
I know a guy whis a Mormon. They're non profit but charge high dolllar for deer and elk hunts and thwyd never let him hunt..even though Hes a Brother


A nonprofit? They make billions, it's more like organized crime than a nonprofit.


The government isn't able to legally steal their share, who cares, not like they need it.

Re: Trapping on Mormon Church property [Re: danny clifton] #7451364
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
The way I understand it a good mormon deeds all his land to the church. Think taxes. Think control. The guy doing the deeding lives there and treats it like his own but it belongs to the church. All money goes to the church. The church gives it back as charity.


They also have forced tithing of 10% of income. It's quite a racket. If you don't follow the rules of the "church," they can just take away everything from you. And of course they can change the rules any time they want.

Brigham Young was brilliant and self-serving in the extreme, and that has carried down through the ages. Other than the fact that he had 27 wives and 62 children. Not sure how brilliant that would be.

Re: Trapping on Mormon Church property [Re: martentrapper] #7451371
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
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A nonprofit? They make billions, it's more like organized crime than a nonprofit.


The government isn't able to legally steal their share, who cares, not like they need it.


It's really not that much about taxes. It's much bigger than that.

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They are a very big land owner in wy, they bought several really big ranches, I think the PK, and buffalo creek red Angus?

Re: Trapping on Mormon Church property [Re: BernieB.] #7451378
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Originally Posted by BernieB.
Originally Posted by cathryn
I know a guy whis a Mormon. They're non profit but charge high dolllar for deer and elk hunts and thwyd never let him hunt..even though Hes a Brother


A nonprofit? They make billions, it's more like organized crime than a nonprofit.

Bernie is spot on. They own a million acres in continental America. To think they’re nothing but big business with tax breaks is hilarious.
Honestly, think of how much the tax breaks because of religion costs you guys. It costs us too, but if you want to whine about tax stuff, start there.

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Re: Trapping on Mormon Church property [Re: BernieB.] #7451392
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Originally Posted by BernieB.
Originally Posted by cathryn
I know a guy whis a Mormon. They're non profit but charge high dolllar for deer and elk hunts and thwyd never let him hunt..even though Hes a Brother


A nonprofit? They make billions, it's more like organized crime than a nonprofit.

the largest most profitable non profit in the country is Lutheran 22.6 Billon and is larger than the next 3 combined

and it does not need to be religious to be non profit

Mayo clinic is #2

the red cross is not religious

task force for global health

feeding America

the boys and girls club

habitat for humanity



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Re: Trapping on Mormon Church property [Re: martentrapper] #7451429
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So no one has actually trapped on Mormon land? Seems with all the agri biz they're involved in they would welcome some critter control. Maybe there are some Mormon trappers we need to reach out to and get to join our club!

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I haven't trapped but have hunted on a couple ranches that they own, I just knocked on the office door and asked. The bigger ranch had some rules and took my name the smaller place was just like any other ranch ask the manager and talk about where and when.

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Yeah I know of a place or two in Georgia owned by them


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If all else fails, contact Mitt Romney. He's a Mormon as his father was. I'm sure he'd help you. wink


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