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Re: my morning rant , then it will be over [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7452485
01/06/22 02:25 PM
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I don't believe that for a second. It's made up. They wanted to fire him for some other reason, possibly for taking time off due to covid.


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Re: my morning rant , then it will be over [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7452494
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I agree yote trapper

Re: my morning rant , then it will be over [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7452506
01/06/22 02:58 PM
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When I was 21 I worked 11 hours and 45 minutes a night, 7 days a week during the Summer, driving a security patrol, which later in the Summer turned to 12 hours and 15 minutes a night, 7 days a week. I made very good money on overtime. The company I worked for switched to a lower cost insurance company, which required their drivers to be 24 years old or older. They tried to get an exemption for me and looked into getting a rider to cover me. It was prohibitively expensive. My least favorite manager called and woke me up about an hour after I fell asleep and told me to get dressed up and meet with a client in Cincinnati to get approved to work a high profile account in downtown Cincinnati. I got angry, called the former VP of the security company I was working for, who had become the national loss prevention manager for an upscale men's clothing store, to see if he knew of anything that was available. Without an interview, he gave me a job as the receiving manager and warehouse manager for the largest store in the chain. They were having huge shrinkage problems and he told me he wanted me because he wanted someone he could 100% trust.

They may be able to buy a rider to cover your son. If not, he should use this as an opportunity to find a better job. The job market is very good right now.

Keith

Re: my morning rant , then it will be over [Re: yotetrapper30] #7452512
01/06/22 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I don't believe that for a second. It's made up. They wanted to fire him for some other reason, possibly for taking time off due to covid.


not sure it was only 3 days he missed as they had closed the shop from dec 24th to jan 3rd to have the floors all epoxied and he had a note from the county health department.


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Re: my morning rant , then it will be over [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7452560
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He should apply for a union auto maker job, I bet you can build cars at 18 yrs old

Re: my morning rant , then it will be over [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7452747
01/06/22 06:52 PM
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That's too bad but you cannot do anything about that situation....


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Re: my morning rant , then it will be over [Re: Turtledale] #7452756
01/06/22 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Turtledale
Doesn't sound legal to me. Can you legally get canned because of your age? Sounds fishy. At least the job market is wide open for a young man but that stinks



That sounds really fishy...but maybe it's an open door to a better job.

Re: my morning rant , then it will be over [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7452851
01/06/22 08:26 PM
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The stupidity never ends!!!

Re: my morning rant , then it will be over [Re: coyotesoldier229] #7452868
01/06/22 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by coyotesoldier229
He should apply for a union auto maker job, I bet you can build cars at 18 yrs old



well he can build manure spreaders for sure and that is a lot shorter drive than the nearest car plant.


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Re: my morning rant , then it will be over [Re: BuckMink] #7452897
01/06/22 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckMink
Originally Posted by Turtledale
Doesn't sound legal to me. Can you legally get canned because of your age? Sounds fishy. At least the job market is wide open for a young man but that stinks



That sounds really fishy...but maybe it's an open door to a better job.

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Re: my morning rant , then it will be over [Re: coyotesoldier229] #7452899
01/06/22 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by coyotesoldier229
Wouldn’t that be age discrimination? Who sets the age you can work on cars?

The bank can’t tell a 90yr old they can’t take out a 30yr loan. Insurance company or not, that seems fishy.



Age discrimination doesn’t apply until 40.


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Re: my morning rant , then it will be over [Re: Kart29] #7452900
01/06/22 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Kart29
I suspect it's related to the type of work - auto repair. The scope of working on automobiles necessitates test drives. Likely the insurance company has written acceptance guidelines which restrict them from providing auto (garage) liability insurance where they know young drivers will be conducting test drives. I doubt it has anything to do with the young man's skill or ability as a mechanic or his quality as a worker. And, sometimes it is the insurance company's insurance company (the reinsurer) that dictates such underwriting restrictions. Sometimes you just can't "fight city hall" no matter how illogical the reasoning.

It most definitely is age discrimination. But insurance underwriting is purely and entirely discrimination based on all sorts of factors - age just being one of them. There's nothing wrong or illegal about discrimination unless it is unfair or illegal discrimination. Due to age being a quantifiable and known increase in risk, age discrimination in insurance is neither unfair or illegal.

Back when I sold a lot of garage liability insurance, we sometimes worked around this problem by the auto repair facility having a written policy that precludes mechanics under the age of 25 (or mechanics with a DUI history) from test driving customer cars or operating tow trucks if they had them. That means another mechanic would need to do the test drive and report his findings to the other mechanic doing the work. But not every insurance company would accept that work-around.


When I worked as a FF/EMT, the company wouldn’t allow anyone under 25 to drive. It was the I insurance company they said. Same with renting a car.


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Re: my morning rant , then it will be over [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7452950
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Originally Posted by charles
I had a friend years ago who during high school, worked at a fast-food location that had a meat slicer. Because of his age, he could not go near it. Probably insurance or OSHA rule. This was in the min 60s.


OSHA wasn't around in the mid 60's.

Re: my morning rant , then it will be over [Re: K52] #7453029
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Originally Posted by K52
Originally Posted by charles
I had a friend years ago who during high school, worked at a fast-food location that had a meat slicer. Because of his age, he could not go near it. Probably insurance or OSHA rule. This was in the min 60s.


OSHA wasn't around in the mid 60's.

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Re: my morning rant , then it will be over [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7453053
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Man that stinks. Hopefully he finds a better and better paying job soon.
Could be liability issue especially since not certified yet.
Some jobs require age minimum like serving liquor certain jobs in casinos holding certain professional licenses.
I was 18 working as a butcher.

Re: my morning rant , then it will be over [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7453056
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Head him towards maintenance in a factory. Best paying job I ever had.


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Re: my morning rant , then it will be over [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7453057
01/07/22 02:08 AM
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Wow, some people are just plain stupid, their loss

Re: my morning rant , then it will be over [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7453078
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well there's enough work out there ,he will find a job

Re: my morning rant , then it will be over [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7453097
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it's truly a crazy world we're living in but it sounds like with his skill set he won't be out of work for long!

Re: my morning rant , then it will be over [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7453216
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Sorry to hear this Pete. It's a sad time we live in, when a business owner doesn't have control of his own business.


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