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Re: Trapping a new ranch in south TX [Re: Mark June] #7454113
01/08/22 09:32 AM
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good luck

Re: Trapping a new ranch in south TX [Re: Mark June] #7454122
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Love those cats.


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Re: Trapping a new ranch in south TX [Re: Mark June] #7454131
01/08/22 09:55 AM
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I bet 110 come up easier than they go in laugh

Hope you catch that lion

Re: Trapping a new ranch in south TX [Re: Mark June] #7454139
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Mark, can you go into the “ranch hands all snare the fences”...do you consider that when setting up your bid for the work? Do you have them take the snares down until you leave or do you get credit for their snaring? Just seems odd to me...
Thanks

Re: Trapping a new ranch in south TX [Re: Mark June] #7454665
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Reckon the lion got Mark?

Re: Trapping a new ranch in south TX [Re: Mark June] #7454678
01/08/22 09:23 PM
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No hide. No hair. No lion.
The neighboring ranch had another kill today, about 5 miles from my spot, so I think our big kitty moved over a bit. I pulled sets today so we came, we tried, no go.

The highlight today was the Mrs. getting another nice Tom
[Linked Image]

We've got the coyotes and bobcats cleaned up real well because the catch is falling off drastically.
We pulled a punch of leg holds today.
The end of a great time on the line with my Mrs!
[Linked Image]

Thanks for riding along.
We ended with 1.95 coyotes taken per square mile and 2.1 bobcats harvested per square mile.
Right at goal of 2.

Blessings,
Mark


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Re: Trapping a new ranch in south TX [Re: MChewk] #7454691
01/08/22 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MChewk
Mark, can you go into the “ranch hands all snare the fences”...do you consider that when setting up your bid for the work? Do you have them take the snares down until you leave or do you get credit for their snaring? Just seems odd to me...
Thanks


We are interior leg hold experts and we sell our services that way. Resident coyotes that inhabit the interior are usually the bad hombres, and we go after them with leg holds exclusively.
Ranch hands use snares on some of the ranches but our premier ranches have very few holes and they use predator skirting also. On this job we caught just under 60 cats and coyotes and 94% came from leg holds.

Big league ranchers don't hire big league trappers to run snares. They think they can have a hired hand run snares and thin out the bad hombres, but typically all that happens is the transitory animals each year are thinned out and not the interior bad boys.

When I trap after about the first of May, I won't hardly ever catch an animal in a snare because territories are set and no one seems to move in and out of fence.
Leg holds.... it's what we're good at. Find sign. Set sign. Nail them!
Coyotes move around in an enclosure called a high fence ranch because they don't like us.
It's an awesome chess game. Their move, my move, their move, my move... over and over for 14 days.

Blessings,
Mark


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Re: Trapping a new ranch in south TX [Re: Mark June] #7454711
01/08/22 09:58 PM
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Good looking cat pretty clear belly fro the picture,foot holds are way more rewarding than snares but it's good to have both,thank's for other ride along.When is the next ride along,do you have one or two before the fawn May reduction?

Re: Trapping a new ranch in south TX [Re: Mark June] #7454715
01/08/22 10:02 PM
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Three ranches want us in May and early June as soon as I graduate May 7th. Dog-gone-it's-hot that time of year.
But we love it.


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Re: Trapping a new ranch in south TX [Re: Mark June] #7454727
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Outstanding knowledge sharing Mark!

Re: Trapping a new ranch in south TX [Re: Mark June] #7454746
01/08/22 10:36 PM
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Thank you Mitch L. I try to help as much as I can on an online forum wink


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Re: Trapping a new ranch in south TX [Re: Mark June] #7454753
01/08/22 10:50 PM
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Hey Mark, any guess what the bobcat population density is in that country?

Re: Trapping a new ranch in south TX [Re: Mark June] #7454762
01/08/22 11:05 PM
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Wow Ringneck, I really don't know. Sections of Texas have bobcats in addition to coyotes as apex predators. We make sets that are designed to catch both most often. Sometimes we put in a coyote specific set and sometimes we set just for cats, but they work the same areas a lot so we target both. Our ranchers are ALWAYS surprised how many cats we catch and after 3-4 years, we do see a marked drop off in population. Which is the goal.


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Re: Trapping a new ranch in south TX [Re: Mark June] #7454769
01/08/22 11:12 PM
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Curious what you do with all of the carcasses?

I would guess you harvest glands and things to go in your baits/lures?

Do you mess with skinning any of the cats for fur sale?

Cats might be worth skinning but a Texas coyote hide with a dollar attached will net you .25 smile

Always interesting and educational following these threads

Have a safe trip home

Re: Trapping a new ranch in south TX [Re: Mark June] #7454771
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Mark -
Thanks for sharing the adventure!
You wanted my thoughts about the Pioneer. Well first compared to others. I do wildlife habitat improvement for private landowners. The design and the real work. Plus I do predator management on their lands. All of my customers have some kind of buggy. I have ridden in a bunch and driven many. The only brand I have no experience with is the CanAm.
The Yamaha, Kawasaki, and Polaris all drive the same with that clutch and belt spongy snowmobile feel. They seem weak trying to use the engine for compression braking down a hill.

One customer has 5 side by sides. We got them out and I drove a Pioneer 700 and said THIS IS IT! No more test drives. The drive shaft system makes a tremendous difference. The 1000 is substantially wider than the 700 which made it even better.

The 1000 is the quietest side by side I have ever used. Engine power and torque is over the top great. Ride is superb. The gear system is great - full auto or full manual. Great for everything. We splurged on the SE Special Edition model which costs more, but you get much more than the price difference. This came fully setup with roof, windshield, extra instrument switch panel wiring, and switch for the LED light bar. Also Fox high performance suspension system, front and rear A arm beefy protection, beefy full underneath skid plates, Warn winch, Maxxis radial tires, fancy rims, and other stuff that I cannot remember. The cost was $22,000 plus tax. We had it on order for almost 9 months. I am not crazy about the bed. It is not designed to mount stuff all over it.

It needs a Honda soft rear window ($75) to keep dust out of the cab. It needs side mirrors ($50). It needs a gun rack ($100).

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Re: Trapping a new ranch in south TX [Re: Mark June] #7454781
01/08/22 11:22 PM
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Dang Wiley that’s a beauty, I have buggy envy.lol

Re: Trapping a new ranch in south TX [Re: Mark June] #7454792
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All these years ..I thought Texas was a warm weathah destination….. Do they ice fish down there…lol


It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Re: Trapping a new ranch in south TX [Re: BTLowry] #7454896
01/09/22 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BTLowry
Curious what you do with all of the carcasses?

I would guess you harvest glands and things to go in your baits/lures?

Do you mess with skinning any of the cats for fur sale?

Cats might be worth skinning but a Texas coyote hide with a dollar attached will net you .25 smile

Always interesting and educational following these threads

Have a safe trip home


BTL, Yes, I skin all the cats but no I don't gland the coyotes. We use so many glands in our lures that I buy in quantity from fur buyers, which we could sure use more of!
Thanks for the well wishes BTLowery.

The cat pictures are always enjoyed by the guys paying us.
This is the final cat tally at this ranch for the two weeks.

[Linked Image]

Blessings,
Mark


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Re: Trapping a new ranch in south TX [Re: Willy Firewood] #7454901
01/09/22 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Willy Firewood
Mark -
Thanks for sharing the adventure!
You wanted my thoughts about the Pioneer. Well first compared to others. I do wildlife habitat improvement for private landowners. The design and the real work. Plus I do predator management on their lands. All of my customers have some kind of buggy. I have ridden in a bunch and driven many. The only brand I have no experience with is the CanAm.
The Yamaha, Kawasaki, and Polaris all drive the same with that clutch and belt spongy snowmobile feel. They seem weak trying to use the engine for compression braking down a hill.

One customer has 5 side by sides. We got them out and I drove a Pioneer 700 and said THIS IS IT! No more test drives. The drive shaft system makes a tremendous difference. The 1000 is substantially wider than the 700 which made it even better.

The 1000 is the quietest side by side I have ever used. Engine power and torque is over the top great. Ride is superb. The gear system is great - full auto or full manual. Great for everything. We splurged on the SE Special Edition model which costs more, but you get much more than the price difference. This came fully setup with roof, windshield, extra instrument switch panel wiring, and switch for the LED light bar. Also Fox high performance suspension system, front and rear A arm beefy protection, beefy full underneath skid plates, Warn winch, Maxxis radial tires, fancy rims, and other stuff that I cannot remember. The cost was $22,000 plus tax. We had it on order for almost 9 months. I am not crazy about the bed. It is not designed to mount stuff all over it.

It needs a Honda soft rear window ($75) to keep dust out of the cab. It needs side mirrors ($50). It needs a gun rack ($100).


Willy, Willy, Willy.... see what you've done. Now I have to go try one of these. My Kawasaki cost $18,000 out the door 4 years ago and has too many miles now to trust it for the punishment we trappers give it. It's my office, so these Pioneers have caught my eye. Thank you so much sir! I will go see what they are all about!

Blessings,
Mark


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Re: Trapping a new ranch in south TX [Re: Nessmuck] #7454904
01/09/22 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Nessmuck
All these years ..I thought Texas was a warm weathah destination….. Do they ice fish down there…lol


Nessmuck,
It's always battle against the elements anywhere we trap, right!
One day it's cooking your bacon here and the next your teeth are chattering with every layer you have on. 100% humidity in the early am this time of year makes for a dense fog until it decides to dissipate. Sometimes that's 8:00am. Sometimes it's never. It can go from 26 to 85 in the same day depending on if the north beats the south or the south wipes the north. Honestly, I prefer sorta the same temp each day or thereabouts. No such thing here during this time of year. Now starting in the spring, when we trap, it's just dang HOT HOT sunup till sundown.

Blessings,
Mark


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