Re: Cost of Charging Electric Car
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I have a young maintenance fella that bought a Tesla. He can drive the vehicle 250 miles between charges. At a Tesla charging station he pays 4.00. It takes 30 minutes to charge. He also has an adapter that he can charge the vehicle at home. It takes 8 hrs to charge off a 120 volt 15amp outlet. Works for him. Interesting. So that comes out to $0.016 miles per charge add to that what is 30 minutes of your time(personal or business) worth? Even at $12 hr that' comes $6.016 per charge plus sitting for 30 minutes at the station. "Waitin downtown in a charging station....one toke over the line."
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Re: Cost of Charging Electric Car
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Benson what president mandated all vehicles would be electric by 2035?? Guess I didn't hear that one and no sure he can do that. No president yet, but california is no more gasoline cars sold after 2035. Electric landscaping equipment only after 2024.
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Re: Cost of Charging Electric Car
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California is California and even that can change over night. A big earthquake with California sliding into the Pacific would be nice.
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Re: Cost of Charging Electric Car
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Biden wants all federal vehicles to be electric by then.
He just spent 7.5 billion for charging stations in his infrastructure bill. How much did he spend on gas stations?
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Re: Cost of Charging Electric Car
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Re: Cost of Charging Electric Car
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"The Biden administration’s effort to blanket the country in half a million new EV chargers in the next half-decade got $7.5 billion in funding Monday when the president signed the $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill into law. But while those chargers will be necessary as electric vehicle sales continue to climb, Biden’s plan will require institutional — and personal — patience.
Not only will it simply take a while to build out that many chargers, but the majority of what gets built will likely be of the “Level 2” variety, which can replenish about 25 miles of battery capacity per hour. That means EV buyers in the US will have to get used to the idea of sipping energy while they’re out and about and doing most of their charging at home.
The infrastructure bill does allow for funding to go to new DC Fast charging stations. (Same with hydrogen fueling stations.) But Level 2 chargers are far cheaper to build and install, meaning the administration can get more of them for the same amount of money. Level 2 chargers only cost a few thousand dollars to get in the ground, while faster chargers can be 50 to 100 times as expensive."
Looks like gas Stations get to pay $ 43 billion in taxes to the feds. More than that to the State governments. There are winners and losers.
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Re: Cost of Charging Electric Car
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The gas stations don't pay it, their customers do. The stations are the intermediary
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Re: Cost of Charging Electric Car
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Biden wants all federal vehicles to be electric by then.
He just spent 7.5 billion for charging stations in his infrastructure bill. How much did he spend on gas stations? Probly nuthin' since they're wanting to eliminate fossil fuels. Seven eleven, Circle K, RaceTrac, Marathon, etc. are putting them up as fast as they can build them.
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Re: Cost of Charging Electric Car
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The gas stations don't pay it, their customers do. The stations are the intermediary If you want to play it that way. I guess the EV owners get the $ 7,500 tax credit per car and $7.5 billion in chargers. Plus what ever State money is in the pot. Hate to tell you this charles, but when they mandated putting ethanol in gasoline it was senseless and it still is. When they mandated my 20lb propane tanks into the landfill it was senseless, and still is. etc. You have way more faith in the central planners, than I do.
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Re: Cost of Charging Electric Car
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We all once farmed with horses and mules. Then came tractors, but they were so heavy they packed the ground, and my grandfather wouldn't buy one.
There was a boy in my grade school class whose family lived without a telephone because his dad would not allow the phone company to place poles across his farmland. Didn't want to have to farm around the darn poles.
Change is hard and seems senseless at first. tractors weren't mandated.
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Re: Cost of Charging Electric Car
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EVSE Rebates and Tax Credits, by State There are many rebates and tax incentives for purchasing and installing a Level 2 charging station at your home or business. These vary by area, so check with your local utility company to see if there are incentives to take advantage of in your area, including a time-of-use rate.
Below are EVSE tax credits and rebates, by state. If you learn of any active EVSE rebates or tax credits that are not listed, please email details to marketing@clippercreek.net and we will add them.
FEDERAL TAX CREDIT FOR EVSE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION EXTENDED! Congress recently passed a retroactive (now includes 2018, 2019, 2020, and through 2021) federal tax credit for those who purchase(d) EV charging infrastructure. Receive a federal tax credit of 30% of the cost of purchasing and installing an EV charging station.
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Re: Cost of Charging Electric Car
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We all once farmed with horses and mules. Then came tractors, but they were so heavy they packed the ground, and my grandfather wouldn't buy one.
There was a boy in my grade school class whose family lived without a telephone because his dad would not allow the phone company to place poles across his farmland. Didn't want to have to farm around the darn poles.
Change is hard and seems senseless at first. tractors weren't mandated. And the government didn't tax you to pay for the mandates. And on and on. I get what Charles is saying, and he's right that most people resist change, but it's a totally different story when we have to pay for things we don't want and many of us will be forced into difficulty because the masses from the urban areas do not understand how we live and how our needs are different from theirs. the electric car trend will continue to grow, so let's just let it happen naturally and let the free market system do what it does best.
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Re: Cost of Charging Electric Car
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You simply carry a generator back into the woods to charge the EV. Oh, and GASOLINE to run the generator. Wait. What? Lol.....😀
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