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Re: Ammunition shortage [Re: charles] #7456390
01/10/22 03:24 PM
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Listened to a great podcast with Wetherby talking about the ammo shortage. He explained it well. There's something like 5 million new gun owners since 2020. Thats individual gun owners, not how many new guns were purchased. Most of these gun owners bought .22, .223, 9mm, and .308. These new gun owners are trying to learn how to properly shot and put in some range time with all their new guns. So the demand for these calibers has gone up a ton in the last 2 years. Most manufactures do runs of a caliber, then change out the dyes and reload runs of ammo from a different caliber. With these 4 calibers being in such high demand, manufactures are doing longer runs with these, but still need to do other less popular calibers for clients. While they are doing less popular runs, they are totally running out of the high demand calibers. Plus the ammo scare has caused old gun owners to stock up on more ammo. He mentioned that a bunch of manufactures are building new facilities to help with the demand, but they didn't start right away. They didn't want to dump millions of dollars into new facilities and hire new employees if this was just a temporary issue. But since that all the new gun owner data has come out, they started building. Once these facilities are built, the supply will start picking up again. So in the next year, we should have shelves full of ammo again.


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Re: Ammunition shortage [Re: charles] #7456392
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Only problem with the excuses of new gun owners is...there's been a shortage for almost 30 years now.

Re: Ammunition shortage [Re: charles] #7456401
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Originally Posted by charles
Seems the ammo availability was improving but now shelves are empty again. Should be a slow month for ammo sales but the industry can't catch up.



Best way I know of is to get rid of the people elected this past go round. Best way for the ammo to “reappear” is to vote in conservative people that do not threaten our 2nd amendment!! Pretty simple, one would think.


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Re: Ammunition shortage [Re: trapdye] #7456417
01/10/22 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by trapdye
Anyone from New York order ammo thru the mail lately, Tried Cabala's, Midway & a couple others. They would not ship to NY state. Is a new law I missed.

Been that way for quite a while
Target sports was the last one I know would send it. That was this summer. Haven't ordered anything since


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Re: Ammunition shortage [Re: charles] #7456418
01/10/22 04:04 PM
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Someday we will be told how the shortage came to be . And you might be surprised to find our elected officials are behind the scenes.
Just like the law that was passed that they can confiscate your food
President Can Now Seize Control of All U.S. Food ...
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President Can Now Seize Control of All U.S. Food Production. On Friday, March 16th, 2012, President Barack Obama signed an executive order that asserts his authority to take over all food resources in the nation so long as it is done "to promote the national defense under both emergency and non-emergency conditions.".

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Re: Ammunition shortage [Re: charles] #7456436
01/10/22 04:27 PM
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This is a "through" the grapevine" rumor so take it for what it is...

A couple months back I was told to expect another ammo/reloading component shortage in early 2022.

But... After the toilet paper debacle I am starting to wonder if stuff like this is a psyop of some sort... Start a rumor of an impending shortage to induce panic buying and you can create the shortage... Self-fulfilling prophecy.

We'll just have to see if the rumor bears out.

Mike


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Re: Ammunition shortage [Re: trapdye] #7456441
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Originally Posted by trapdye
Anyone from New York order ammo thru the mail lately, Tried Cabala's, Midway & a couple others. They would not ship to NY state. Is a new law I missed.



You can't ship ammo through the postal system. Federal law. Has been that way for years


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Re: Ammunition shortage [Re: charles] #7456446
01/10/22 04:39 PM
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I still can't find primers or .22 rat shot anywhere.


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Re: Ammunition shortage [Re: charles] #7456484
01/10/22 05:09 PM
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i had two boxs of 22 rat shot. gave one to a friend of my wifes. shoots snakes with it. i told her to use it sparingly. i havnt seen any for years either


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Re: Ammunition shortage [Re: charles] #7456497
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Re: Ammunition shortage [Re: USMC47 🦫] #7456499
01/10/22 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by USMC47 🦫
I just want 300WSM! Haven’t seen it in a year!

Midway USA had some federal fusion 165 gr in stock this morning when I was making my rounds. It might be gone by now but worth checking out


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Re: Ammunition shortage [Re: coondagger2] #7456520
01/10/22 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by coondagger2
Originally Posted by USMC47 🦫
I just want 300WSM! Haven’t seen it in a year!

Midway USA had some federal fusion 165 gr in stock this morning when I was making my rounds. It might be gone by now but worth checking out



Academy Sports has some good stuff but you ain't gonna like the price.


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Re: Ammunition shortage [Re: charles] #7456527
01/10/22 05:50 PM
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There's a lot of ammunition going through the small online auction sites. Some goes cheap and some goes way over full retail. 9mm and .40 usually go over full retail. Mixed lots of ammunition mostly sell cheap. I've done very well on 12 gauge ammunition. There's a lot of very old ammunition for sale and a lot of brand new ammunition.

Keith

Re: Ammunition shortage [Re: charles] #7456561
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Was in a farm supply store here last weekend. Plenty of handgun ammo in 9mm. 300 Savage ammo plenty of boxes if you want to spend $54 a box.

Re: Ammunition shortage [Re: charles] #7456676
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I saw some Hornady Critical Defense or Duty in .357 Mag at Academy last week and it's been a long long time.


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Re: Ammunition shortage [Re: Leftlane] #7456680
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
I saw some Hornady Critical Defense or Duty in .357 Mag at Academy last week and it's been a long long time.

No pistol ammo around here for a long time now.


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Re: Ammunition shortage [Re: white17] #7456731
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Originally Posted by white17
Originally Posted by trapdye
Anyone from New York order ammo thru the mail lately, Tried Cabala's, Midway & a couple others. They would not ship to NY state. Is a new law I missed.



You can't ship ammo through the postal system. Federal law. Has been that way for years



I've bought through Midway several times and they ship it here.
N.Y. must have something else going on.

Re: Ammunition shortage [Re: hippie] #7456736
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Originally Posted by hippie


I've bought through Midway several times and they ship it here.
N.Y. must have something else going on.


NY safe act had a component that made it so only dealers could sell ammo.
someone here told me that that part never got implemented or was stopped so they could still get mail order ammo
however a lot of online sellers just don't want to deal with it


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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
Originally Posted by hippie


I've bought through Midway several times and they ship it here.
N.Y. must have something else going on.


NY safe act had a component that made it so only dealers could sell ammo.
someone here told me that that part never got implemented or was stopped so they could still get mail order ammo
however a lot of online sellers just don't want to deal with it

Exactly right.


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Re: Ammunition shortage [Re: charles] #7456748
01/10/22 09:19 PM
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The more hog work I do with a handgun the less I get a rifle out of the back seat. I'm glad I buy ammo when there is a lull in the craziness tho.


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