Re: Ammunition shortage
[Re: charles]
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01/10/22 03:24 PM
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Listened to a great podcast with Wetherby talking about the ammo shortage. He explained it well. There's something like 5 million new gun owners since 2020. Thats individual gun owners, not how many new guns were purchased. Most of these gun owners bought .22, .223, 9mm, and .308. These new gun owners are trying to learn how to properly shot and put in some range time with all their new guns. So the demand for these calibers has gone up a ton in the last 2 years. Most manufactures do runs of a caliber, then change out the dyes and reload runs of ammo from a different caliber. With these 4 calibers being in such high demand, manufactures are doing longer runs with these, but still need to do other less popular calibers for clients. While they are doing less popular runs, they are totally running out of the high demand calibers. Plus the ammo scare has caused old gun owners to stock up on more ammo. He mentioned that a bunch of manufactures are building new facilities to help with the demand, but they didn't start right away. They didn't want to dump millions of dollars into new facilities and hire new employees if this was just a temporary issue. But since that all the new gun owner data has come out, they started building. Once these facilities are built, the supply will start picking up again. So in the next year, we should have shelves full of ammo again.
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Re: Ammunition shortage
[Re: charles]
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01/10/22 03:39 PM
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Seems the ammo availability was improving but now shelves are empty again. Should be a slow month for ammo sales but the industry can't catch up. Best way I know of is to get rid of the people elected this past go round. Best way for the ammo to “reappear” is to vote in conservative people that do not threaten our 2nd amendment!! Pretty simple, one would think.
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Re: Ammunition shortage
[Re: trapdye]
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01/10/22 04:01 PM
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Anyone from New York order ammo thru the mail lately, Tried Cabala's, Midway & a couple others. They would not ship to NY state. Is a new law I missed.
Been that way for quite a while Target sports was the last one I know would send it. That was this summer. Haven't ordered anything since
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Re: Ammunition shortage
[Re: charles]
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01/10/22 04:04 PM
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Someday we will be told how the shortage came to be . And you might be surprised to find our elected officials are behind the scenes. Just like the law that was passed that they can confiscate your food President Can Now Seize Control of All U.S. Food ... Search domain foodrenegade.comhttps://www.foodrenegade.com › president-can-now-seize-control-of-all-food-production President Can Now Seize Control of All U.S. Food Production. On Friday, March 16th, 2012, President Barack Obama signed an executive order that asserts his authority to take over all food resources in the nation so long as it is done "to promote the national defense under both emergency and non-emergency conditions.".
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Re: Ammunition shortage
[Re: charles]
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01/10/22 04:27 PM
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This is a "through" the grapevine" rumor so take it for what it is...
A couple months back I was told to expect another ammo/reloading component shortage in early 2022.
But... After the toilet paper debacle I am starting to wonder if stuff like this is a psyop of some sort... Start a rumor of an impending shortage to induce panic buying and you can create the shortage... Self-fulfilling prophecy.
We'll just have to see if the rumor bears out.
Mike
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Re: Ammunition shortage
[Re: charles]
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01/10/22 04:39 PM
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I still can't find primers or .22 rat shot anywhere.
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Re: Ammunition shortage
[Re: charles]
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01/10/22 05:09 PM
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i had two boxs of 22 rat shot. gave one to a friend of my wifes. shoots snakes with it. i told her to use it sparingly. i havnt seen any for years either
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Ammunition shortage
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01/10/22 05:42 PM
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I just want 300WSM! Haven’t seen it in a year! Midway USA had some federal fusion 165 gr in stock this morning when I was making my rounds. It might be gone by now but worth checking out Academy Sports has some good stuff but you ain't gonna like the price.
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Re: Ammunition shortage
[Re: charles]
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01/10/22 08:24 PM
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I saw some Hornady Critical Defense or Duty in .357 Mag at Academy last week and it's been a long long time.
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Re: Ammunition shortage
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01/10/22 08:26 PM
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I saw some Hornady Critical Defense or Duty in .357 Mag at Academy last week and it's been a long long time. No pistol ammo around here for a long time now.
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Re: Ammunition shortage
[Re: white17]
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01/10/22 09:05 PM
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Anyone from New York order ammo thru the mail lately, Tried Cabala's, Midway & a couple others. They would not ship to NY state. Is a new law I missed.
You can't ship ammo through the postal system. Federal law. Has been that way for years I've bought through Midway several times and they ship it here. N.Y. must have something else going on.
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Re: Ammunition shortage
[Re: hippie]
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01/10/22 09:10 PM
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I've bought through Midway several times and they ship it here. N.Y. must have something else going on.
NY safe act had a component that made it so only dealers could sell ammo. someone here told me that that part never got implemented or was stopped so they could still get mail order ammo however a lot of online sellers just don't want to deal with it
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Re: Ammunition shortage
[Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE]
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01/10/22 09:11 PM
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I've bought through Midway several times and they ship it here. N.Y. must have something else going on.
NY safe act had a component that made it so only dealers could sell ammo. someone here told me that that part never got implemented or was stopped so they could still get mail order ammo however a lot of online sellers just don't want to deal with it Exactly right.
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Re: Ammunition shortage
[Re: charles]
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01/10/22 09:19 PM
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The more hog work I do with a handgun the less I get a rifle out of the back seat. I'm glad I buy ammo when there is a lull in the craziness tho.
“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.” Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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