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Oath Takers #7459186
01/13/22 07:43 AM
01/13/22 07:43 AM

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Us constitution supporting citizens look at y'all to lead so I've got a question. Does the federal takeover of elections being attempted by the leftist fall within the parameters of "defending the Constitution from enemies both foreign and domestic"? Their proposal is clearly in direct violation of the U.S. Constitution.
For those constitutional scholars, does this proposal breech a contract(Constitution) and therefore allow states to remove/dissolve the federal government?

Re: Oath Takers [Re: ] #7459223
01/13/22 08:39 AM
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Explain the direct violation. I must confess I am ignoring big D cause its not good for my demeanor to pay attention to their shenanigans.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Oath Takers [Re: ] #7459239
01/13/22 08:57 AM
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I’m not sure. What I am sure of is. The enforcement agencies and military are being purged right now of folk that think like we do via the mandate and I don’t see that turning out well.


Everything the left touches it destroys
Re: Oath Takers [Re: ] #7459344
01/13/22 11:02 AM
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j you might need to check the library for a "constitutional law" text book. they're are about 2" thick


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Re: Oath Takers [Re: ] #7459356
01/13/22 11:09 AM
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I assume you meant the Oath Keepers. The left has pulled out all the stops when it comes to demonizing all things Right. The Southern Poverty Law Center considers them a domestic terrorist organization. If the mass media steps in line and keeps parroting all the Leftist B.S. that is 99.9% of any political commentary/"news" regurgitated by the powers that be........they will absolutely win, and they will do it without having to fire a single shot. They are very close even now, perhaps too close to stop. Mid-terms in November will be the big test.


Re: Oath Takers [Re: the Blak Spot] #7459385
01/13/22 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by the Blak Spot
j you might need to check the library for a "constitutional law" text book. they're are about 2" thick

Spot doesn't the Constitution reserve the right to the States when making election laws? A federal takeover would effectively amend the Constitution without using the methods set forth in the Constitution to amend it.

Re: Oath Takers [Re: ] #7459395
01/13/22 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Originally Posted by the Blak Spot
j you might need to check the library for a "constitutional law" text book. they're are about 2" thick

Spot doesn't the Constitution reserve the right to the States when making election laws? A federal takeover would effectively amend the Constitution without using the methods set forth in the Constitution to amend it.


There is a blurb that reserves the right for Congress to play a part in altering those laws. This hasn't happened historically a ton for obvious reasons, but it has happened in the past. I don't think there is any chance of this realistically passing because it's just an encroachment by the federal gov into state rights territory. I doubt many states would appreciate the federal government dictating to them how they have to hold their elections, whether it's a red or blue state.

Re: Oath Takers [Re: ] #7459407
01/13/22 12:10 PM
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It seems to me we’re in the “PHASE OUT THE CONSTITUTION” time in our REPUBLIC!

And it only took just over a year!

Pray for America!

Snap


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Re: Oath Takers [Re: ] #7459409
01/13/22 12:12 PM
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I believe Arkansas constitution says governor can form his/her own militia for protection of the state (don’t quote me though)


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Re: Oath Takers [Re: Oh Snap] #7459664
01/13/22 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Oh Snap
It seems to me we’re in the “PHASE OUT THE CONSTITUTION” time in our REPUBLIC!

And it only took just over a year!

Pray for America!

Snap

Only a year??? Where have you been???

It's taken half a century to get this far out of hand.
It's going to get much. much worse before it gets better.
I've spoken out against it almost the entire five decades.
Sadly folks only talk. No one will stand up against it.

(If I take action alone, how am I different from a terrorist? It will take We the People standing together and standing up to effect change that is significant and lasting.)


"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
-Edmund Burke
"We are fast approaching... rule by brute force."
-Ayn Rand
Re: Oath Takers [Re: ] #7459748
01/13/22 05:15 PM
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Now that they have arrested the leader of the oathkeepers I guess we will soon find out how much support that bunch has,if any.
Should be massive demonstrations at the courthouse at his arraignment No?

Last edited by Boco; 01/13/22 05:16 PM.

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Re: Oath Takers [Re: DuxDawg] #7459807
01/13/22 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DuxDawg
Originally Posted by Oh Snap
It seems to me we’re in the “PHASE OUT THE CONSTITUTION” time in our REPUBLIC!

And it only took just over a year!

Pray for America!

Snap

Only a year??? Where have you been???

It's taken half a century to get this far out of hand.
It's going to get much. much worse before it gets better.
I've spoken out against it almost the entire five decades.
Sadly folks only talk. No one will stand up against it.

(If I take action alone, how am I different from a terrorist? It will take We the People standing together and standing up to effect change that is significant and lasting.)

Yep...its took a year and several hundred have been charged for Jan 6th.

I dont know what the best way for this country to get back on track is...


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Re: Oath Takers [Re: ] #7460152
01/13/22 11:19 PM
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I have zero faith in getting the federal government "back on track". It has been off the rails for so long, tracks have rusted completely away, and the ties have rotted to nothingness.
My efforts are now entirely focused on keeping the State in which I live in line. I live in Virginia. I never thought that we would avoid Terry the punk Mcauliffe as our new governor. We stopped him.
We have MADE great strides. We showed up in nearly every county and city council to demand 2nd Amendment Sanctuary status. We showed up armed to the teeth on the State Capital lawn for the same purpose. We showed up at school board meetings to voice our issues with what teachers were preaching to our children.
Voters noticed. We now have a Republican Governor and a Republican majority in the House of Delegates.

Re: Oath Takers [Re: ] #7460225
01/14/22 12:15 AM
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You can burn down whole Cities if you have the correct letters on your shirts like BLM and ANTIFA.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Oath Takers [Re: Law Dog] #7460264
01/14/22 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
You can burn down whole Cities if you have the correct letters on your shirts like BLM and ANTIFA.



Yup and if the scum who turn a blind eye are compelled give testimony to the Senate they just say I don't know.

I watched several clips of this BS and it became clear to me that these untouchables need to be "touched"


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Re: Oath Takers [Re: ] #7460266
01/14/22 01:29 AM
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They said they were not even tracking them yet they had a FBI drone in Kenosha so what’s the truth?


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Re: Oath Takers [Re: Law Dog] #7460274
01/14/22 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
They said they were not even tracking them yet they had a FBI drone in Kenosha so what’s the truth?


As pointed out in this article there were likely multiple FBI drones in Kenosha and the FBI was likely up to something shady.

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/what-fbi-had-a-drone-in-kenosha-during-rittenhouse-shooting-why/

Keith

Re: Oath Takers [Re: ] #7460290
01/14/22 03:10 AM
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The Lefty's are all giddy about the charges against the leader and the rest saying they are going up river for 20 years.


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Re: Oath Takers [Re: ] #7460337
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Now everyone can see what our founding fathers were up against. They would have been hung had the Brits captured them.

Re: Oath Takers [Re: ] #7460338
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Just remember, that no form of electronic communication is secure. Have to say the drones used at Kenosha really surprised me, I mean....made me feel like we were in Afghanistan or something, except it was our own people!

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