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Re: Cost of Charging Electric Car [Re: trapdog1] #7459231
01/13/22 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by adam m
I was thinking about this thread this morning after a random thought popped up.
How will a typical family recharge 3+ vehicles overnight? How many people don't park in the garage? That's a massive panel upgrade and possibly a whole house amp upgrade and outdoors charging areas.
Each e vehicle prefers you charge with 220v with their special plug. So 3 + stations would be needed at a typical house.

My 3 kids are 3.5 years apart from oldest to youngest. That's a minimum of 4 cars at my house when they are all in high school. Not including their friends cars.

Your family won't be able to afford 3 vehicles anymore. You can have one, and I guess also depend on public transit or something. This is where this is all headed. Welcome to the America the lefties are building.



And you will live in your 800sf aloted living space in thr high rise in the city. You may otr may not havre your own bathroom. You may share the communial one in the common area. Agenda 21

Re: Cost of Charging Electric Car [Re: uplandpointer] #7459240
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it IS looking more and more like the soviet union of the 1950's...bare shelves, medical care rationing...



Re: Cost of Charging Electric Car [Re: Drifter] #7459242
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Originally Posted by Drifter
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If the oil is thick enough that the pump won’t properly supply oil to the engine then warming it up won’t help.


Where did you come up with this? Ever notice when doing a cold start the engine oil light is on? If you were to pay attention it does take longer in cold weather before it goes out and even longer after an oil change.

The main reason a diesel passenger vehicle takes longer to heat up is because there is so much more mass to heat. Heavier engine, half again the amount of oil and a big massive radiator.


Let me clarify, by “warming the engine” in the above quote I’m referring to the procedure of starting your car and letting it idle until warm. Not the actual, beneficial process of physically warming the engine through a block or oil pan heater. Both of those are arguably good for an engine. Letting an engine idle for long periods of time has never been beneficial.


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Re: Cost of Charging Electric Car [Re: trapdog1] #7459319
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Originally Posted by trapdog1

Your family won't be able to afford 3 vehicles anymore. You can have one, and I guess also depend on public transit or something. This is where this is all headed. Welcome to the America the lefties are building.


Afford won't matter, you may not be allowed 3 vehicles.

Unfortunately, this is not just extreme internet banter. A government that's allowed to dictate what types of vehicles you will drive rather than let the free market determine it will have absolutely no qualms in regulating how many vehicles you are allowed to own, or how much you are allowed to drive them.

But hey, some of us are just too old fashioned to understand that this EV thing is just the wave of the future. We should just accept it an move on.

Re: Cost of Charging Electric Car [Re: uplandpointer] #7459327
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The government controls the price of your fuel when you drive an EV. That is fact. They can make it cheaper by subsidizing it with your tax money. You will never know how much it cost you to charge your neighbor's EV.


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Re: Cost of Charging Electric Car [Re: Drifter] #7459333
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Originally Posted by Drifter
The real big jump in time to recharge is when it gets below freezing. Charging below 0c

That was interesting and informative. Thanks

Re: Cost of Charging Electric Car [Re: uplandpointer] #7459730
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It will become the most impractical mode of transportation when there are better environmental options.


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Re: Cost of Charging Electric Car [Re: Clark] #7459745
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Originally Posted by Clark

Let me clarify, by “warming the engine” in the above quote I’m referring to the procedure of starting your car and letting it idle until warm. Not the actual, beneficial process of physically warming the engine through a block or oil pan heater. Both of those are arguably good for an engine. Letting an engine idle for long periods of time has never been beneficial.


I am gonna take a stab that you have never driven a diesel in the winter. Even with the block heater it needs to warm up for a bit. The colder it is the longer it needs to warm up. Otherwise you won't be going anywhere.


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