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Re: Buy backs saving the stock market.? [Re: jbyrd63] #7460048
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Don't start talking about treasury stock, that'll really get him going.

Re: Buy backs saving the stock market.? [Re: jbyrd63] #7460052
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LOL!


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Re: Buy backs saving the stock market.? [Re: jbyrd63] #7460062
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Really, when you think about it (or at least when I think about it) the market should not be 24,000 higher than it was 12 years ago.....that is just absurd as I see it....but I am not an expert on this stuff so it is just a 'gut' feeling that I have.


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Re: Buy backs saving the stock market.? [Re: jbyrd63] #7460078
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I guess some people just want everything to fail.

Re: Buy backs saving the stock market.? [Re: jbyrd63] #7460079
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You're talking about the Dow and, quite frankly, no one pays much attention to it any more. But it is structured differently than the S & P 500 . The Dow is price weighted so higher priced stocks have a larger influence than lower priced stocks. Consequently, a stock like AAPL.....which is in the Dow 30 has a lot more influence in the 'average' since APPL is trading around 173$ than a smaller, non tech type of company that is trading at $35.

The S&P is really the better indicator.


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Re: Buy backs saving the stock market.? [Re: white17] #7460091
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Originally Posted by white17
You're talking about the Dow and, quite frankly, no one pays much attention to it any more. But it is structured differently than the S & P 500 . The Dow is price weighted so higher priced stocks have a larger influence than lower priced stocks. Consequently, a stock like AAPL.....which is in the Dow 30 has a lot more influence in the 'average' since APPL is trading around 173$ than a smaller, non tech type of company that is trading at $35.

The S&P is really the better indicator.




appreciate that info.


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Re: Buy backs saving the stock market.? [Re: jbyrd63] #7460187
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If there wasnít anything to hide why buy them thru a trust fund ?

Re: Buy backs saving the stock market.? [Re: jbyrd63] #7460195
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
If there wasnít anything to hide why buy them thru a trust fund ?

Unless there's some kind of insider trading going on, what is there to hide? Unless theres a bunch of russian or Chinese people on the board of the trust, i dont see the problem.

Re: Buy backs saving the stock market.? [Re: jbyrd63] #7460203
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I donít think the Dow is weighted by stock price. Isnít it weight by company value?

Re: Buy backs saving the stock market.? [Re: jbyrd63] #7460237
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Who funds the PPT ????


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Re: Buy backs saving the stock market.? [Re: jbyrd63] #7460296
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
If there wasnít anything to hide why buy them thru a trust fund ?


Tax advantages.

Re: Buy backs saving the stock market.? [Re: jbyrd63] #7460436
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I would suspect that most of the liquid wealth held by the Ford heirs is in trust funds. It would naturally make sense that large purchases of stock would emanate from these trust funds.

Re: Buy backs saving the stock market.? [Re: jbyrd63] #7460447
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LOL! I read this stuff and I realize it's no surprise trappers are so poor. LOL!

You know how a trapper can have a million dollars? Give him 2 million.

Re: Buy backs saving the stock market.? [Re: Kre] #7460456
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Originally Posted by Kre
LOL! I read this stuff and I realize it's no surprise trappers are so poor. LOL!

You know how a trapper can have a million dollars? Give him 2 million.


Yep, always said the way to make a million in cattle is start with 3 million


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Re: Buy backs saving the stock market.? [Re: charles] #7460599
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Originally Posted by charles
I donít think the Dow is weighted by stock price. Isnít it weight by company value?



No Charles you are thinking of the S & P 500. It is weighted by market capitalization. The Dow is price weighted


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Re: Buy backs saving the stock market.? [Re: jbyrd63] #7460600
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
If there wasnít anything to hide why buy them thru a trust fund ?



If they were trying to hide something why would the transaction be reported ? Using a family trust is likely a tax avoidance mechanism for further down the road. Nothing illegal or unethical about it.

In fact, everyone should strive to pay as little tax as possible at all times........IMO


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Re: Buy backs saving the stock market.? [Re: white17] #7460625
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Originally Posted by white17
Originally Posted by jbyrd63
If there wasnít anything to hide why buy them thru a trust fund ?



If they were trying to hide something why would the transaction be reported ? Using a family trust is likely a tax avoidance mechanism for further down the road. Nothing illegal or unethical about it.

In fact, everyone should strive to pay as little tax as possible at all times........IMO



Unless you're wealthy, then apparently it's a sin to avoid tax.


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Re: Buy backs saving the stock market.? [Re: jbyrd63] #7460812
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Paying the least amount of tax you can is each individualís responsibility. Very foolish to pay more tax then you should. IMO. If the tax shelter is legal use it. At 58 I am saving to go to college some day. grin

Re: Buy backs saving the stock market.? [Re: jbyrd63] #7460856
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No wonder we got guys on here still wanting to trap coons and some how make a buck.

Re: Buy backs saving the stock market.? [Re: jbyrd63] #7460862
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If trying to keep tax expense at a minimum is a crime, there's alot of criminals in the DC gubmint.


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