Permit less carry lowers violence?
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danny clifton
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Missouri recently decided peoples rights were important and quit requiring permission to be armed. Now this???? Who woulda thunk it? https://www.yahoo.com/news/killings-rise-may-cities-st-194941720.html JIM SALTER
Thu, January 13, 2022, 1:49 PM
In a year when many U.S. cities saw a substantial increase in killings, St. Louis bucked the trend in 2021 — a dose of good news for a city that for decades has had among the worst homicide rates in the nation.
The number of killings in St. Louis dropped 25% to 196 in 2021 compared to 263 in 2020. It marks a return to pre-COVID-19 levels; St. Louis police recorded 194 killings in 2019 and 186 in 2018
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Permit less carry lowers violence?
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Of course Yahoo says the drop is due to something else and things would be even better with more trampling of peoples rights. Hard to read that stuff and not have my blood pressure go up. I suspect the good people of Missouri and St louis know better.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Permit less carry lowers violence?
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This is no surprise FL proved the concept years ago when the passed a CC law.
Criminals and terrorists much prefer an unarmed victim
“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.”
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Re: Permit less carry lowers violence?
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And just to clarify, so do senators but they fall into either the criminal or terrorist groups I mentioned
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Re: Permit less carry lowers violence?
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When Fla. passed there laws campus rape dropped 99%
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Re: Permit less carry lowers violence?
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When Fla. passed there laws campus rape dropped 99%
“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.”
Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: Permit less carry lowers violence?
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If i was supreme overlord i would make it mandatory for everyone to carry at all times. Strapped right on their hip or slung over their shoulders. Firearms safety, marksmanship, and minor small unit movement, classes of when and where to use lethal force, and what the laws are would be mandatory in high school.
The vast majority of the stupidity would end very quickly.
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Re: Permit less carry lowers violence?
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Agree, 100%, but I would ask that you as supreme overlord to add a civics class.
They have done away with civics in school, don't want kids growing up actually knowing how our government works. And it's not PC.
Last edited by CaseXX; 01/14/22 09:57 AM. Reason: Add info.
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Re: Permit less carry lowers violence?
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When Fla. passed there laws campus rape dropped 99% the great equalizer even granny can get back 5.5 pounds of trigger when she needs too a huge force multiplier where 5.5 pounds of trigger pull = 300fpe out the other side
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Re: Permit less carry lowers violence?
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danny clifton
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Charles, a big chunk of St Louis is a cesspool. Drugs are rampant and so are gangs. I agree with your assessment. Its why shootings and other violent crime only went down 25%. Those folks are armed and routinely kill each other no matter what the law says. The law abiding are arming themselves now also. Defending themselves. Not near so lucrative to assault them.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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