Re: Iowa Trappers Association Auction Results
[Re: Kong]
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01/16/22 08:37 AM
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trapdog1
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To be clear, I do respect the views of Joe1 and Kinley31. My point is, if you just walk away from this sport because of low prices, and everyone else follows and does the same, nobody left to fight and it will disappear. Joe1 did not answer if he has sold at Boone to support the ITA.
And besides that, it’s a fun sport. A youngster will never learn more about the out of doors anywhere else then they do on the trapline. He said in an earlier post that he had quit. So no, he hasn't sold at the auction.
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Re: Iowa Trappers Association Auction Results
[Re: ~ADC~]
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01/16/22 09:25 AM
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No one on here has said to quit or not pass on the tradition. Just to stop giving away our hard earned fur. Critters will always need to be trapped.
Long live the MAGA King
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Re: Iowa Trappers Association Auction Results
[Re: ~ADC~]
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01/16/22 09:47 AM
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Question guys...what if the end buyer (Groenewold, Petska, Wiebke, Zander) that supplies the customer, sets the price, and tells the customer, "I can't sell you fur for the price you want to pay, because my suppliers (trappers) won't catch them for that." Are we afraid that customer(s) will say "fine, we'll find an alternative material". Is this a possible outcome we're scared of? How long are you willing to bust your hump, skin and flesh, for a $4.00 avg on coon when gas is $3/gal? Buyers have balls the size of church bells that get on these websites and tell us "we need coon", but we can only pay $4-$6 for finished coon. There's a demand guys.
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Re: Iowa Trappers Association Auction Results
[Re: ~ADC~]
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01/16/22 10:01 AM
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These type of markets are the hardest on country buyers, I consider mine a friend and I would hate to be in his shoes these past few years. He is a heckuva guy, but does other work to get by. I am happy for him the few years he sticks his neck out and does well, I’m guessing most years he isn’t vacationing in France once the fur is all shipped out. The big boys on the other hand, have some leverage and play the game I believe. Get this sickness done with and open up the markets and let’s see what happens. Canada, unfortunately has to lead the way for this to happen evidently, with the last big North American auctions being there.
Long live the MAGA King
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Re: Iowa Trappers Association Auction Results
[Re: danny clifton]
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01/16/22 10:10 AM
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Dirt
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Hate to tell you this Danny the sports are not going to quit supplying the market at any price. That is just the way it is.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Iowa Trappers Association Auction Results
[Re: kinley31]
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01/16/22 10:23 AM
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Question guys...what if the end buyer (Groenewold, Petska, Wiebke, Zander) that supplies the customer, sets the price, and tells the customer, "I can't sell you fur for the price you want to pay, because my suppliers (trappers) won't catch them for that." Are we afraid that customer(s) will say "fine, we'll find an alternative material". Is this a possible outcome we're scared of? How long are you willing to bust your hump, skin and flesh, for a $4.00 avg on coon when gas is $3/gal? Buyers have balls the size of church bells that get on these websites and tell us "we need coon", but we can only pay $4-$6 for finished coon. There's a demand guys. I understand what you are saying and where you want to go with this. But how would you get those buyers to toe the line?
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Re: Iowa Trappers Association Auction Results
[Re: kinley31]
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01/16/22 10:53 AM
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Question guys...what if the end buyer (Groenewold, Petska, Wiebke, Zander) that supplies the customer, sets the price, and tells the customer, "I can't sell you fur for the price you want to pay, because my suppliers (trappers) won't catch them for that." Are we afraid that customer(s) will say "fine, we'll find an alternative material". Is this a possible outcome we're scared of? How long are you willing to bust your hump, skin and flesh, for a $4.00 avg on coon when gas is $3/gal? Buyers have balls the size of church bells that get on these websites and tell us "we need coon", but we can only pay $4-$6 for finished coon. There's a demand guys. The guys you mention are buyers and sellers, not the end buyers.
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Re: Iowa Trappers Association Auction Results
[Re: danvee]
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01/16/22 11:40 AM
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They are out of business if they cant buy fur. So we quit selling them fur and they go out of business. That will fix the fur market?
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Re: Iowa Trappers Association Auction Results
[Re: Kong]
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01/16/22 01:20 PM
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If you say , to you, the fur is about business, about money....... what is your business model if you are sitting on fur in freezers ? How long will you chase bad money with good ? How long will you pay for the energy cost to hold your hides for another year? How much does the market have to recover for it to be a wise decision? What business model will prove this was a good decision? The best would be to cut your loss’s and either burn them or sell them. Fur is a renewable resource, your not holding on to gemstones. ^^^^^this is reality.
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Re: Iowa Trappers Association Auction Results
[Re: nimzy]
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01/16/22 04:34 PM
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Reality? The reality is the fur market has been highly volatile for what....500 years? "Around 1550, the "Beaver Era" started and would last for about 300 years." I hope to see one of these 300 year runs again. Be lucky to get a 3 year.
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Who is John Galt?
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