Re: Cord Wood Vs Pellets
[Re: uplandpointer]
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My local gun store sells pallets of pellets as a side line... A one ton pallet runs about $260 after tax.
I can run a saw and log splitter for a minute for $260 worth of gas. But there's also gas for the truck to consider, saw chains, hydraulic oil for the splitter, and my time.
Cost wise it might be close to a wash. But there are virtually zero moving parts and no reliance on electricity for the wood stove.
Mike
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Re: Cord Wood Vs Pellets
[Re: uplandpointer]
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01/16/22 05:05 PM
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Aldo Leopold says in a sand county almanac that good firewood warms you twice. Cost favors cord wood hands down. I run around the field edges cutting down branches and trees that lean to far out on our farm ground to keep my wood burner running every winter.
Derek
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Re: Cord Wood Vs Pellets
[Re: uplandpointer]
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01/16/22 05:10 PM
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One variable is, are you home all day? Pellet stove with a thermostat keeps things warm if your gone kick it up when you get home and things warm up quickly. Whereas with wood if you gone during the day and build evening fires wood will last longer but more effort.
Family room in my house had only wood heat. Started a fire about 4pm let it burn out overnight. Got by on 2 cords per winter +/-. Put in a pellet stove, room stays warm all day nicer when we are home. go through about 120 bags per winter.
So 2 cord at $130 =$260 for 8hrs a night x 240 days= 1920 hours $260 divided by 1920 =.13 per hour 120 bags x $5= $600.00 divided by 24 hrs day x 240 days (5760 Hours) = .10 hour
My cost, give or take.
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Re: Cord Wood Vs Pellets
[Re: Posco]
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I did a quick perusal and found this... 13.6 million BTUs per ton of wood pellets 25 million BTUs per ton of coal (I assume that's anthracite) 36.6 million BTUs per cord of 'live' oak. It dwindles considerably by species from there. I'm sure there are many variables. I have a wood pellet stove and it has been a decent heater chugging along for a decade pretty much trouble free. Coal is my preference, but snow has taken the metalbestos chimney off the house twice. I'll build a brick chimney next summer. So if I had 10 cord of oak that would be 366 million BTU and divide that by a ton of pellets that would be 26.9 ton. Is my math correct?
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Re: Cord Wood Vs Pellets
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01/16/22 05:20 PM
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For starters you need electricity to make a pellet stove work. That's a deal breaker for me. There are pellets stoves that run with out electricity now and have seen them for several years. TSC lists this one, Gravity Feed Non-Electric Wiseway Pellet Stove, 2,000 sq. ft., GW1949 I have no idea how well they work, I never played with one.
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Re: Cord Wood Vs Pellets
[Re: uplandpointer]
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Stay away from Englander brand. They quit answering their phone when comes time for warranty work. It was a corn or wood pellet stove. on high they said 70,000 BTU when bought it then later dropped to 30,000. It would grind the corn like a hammer mill and had to be shut down daily to beat the build up from the auger. Feed auger gear box cooked within a couple months. Ash from it covered the outside of the house too when burning corn.
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Re: Cord Wood Vs Pellets
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01/16/22 05:59 PM
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One other thing to consider is the noise that the pellet stove makes. There are fans and augers that run all the time on the pellet stove. I am lucky that there is a pellet mill about 45 miles from me and can get pellets for $185.00 per ton. Some one said in an earlier post that there was other uses for saw dust and that it may get hard to get. Around here they fill gravel pits with the stuff because they have no place to get rid of it. It does make good trap cover after it has been in the pits for a few years. I've heard this before,and being this is our first pellet stove I'm no expert ,but our stoves fan and augers noise level is next to nothing.If a person complains about that they'll complain about anything
Buck(formely known as Zandra)
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Re: Cord Wood Vs Pellets
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01/16/22 06:20 PM
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So if I had 10 cord of oak that would be 366 million BTU and divide that by a ton of pellets that would be 26.9 ton. Is my math correct?
Your math is correct. Even at the lowest posted cost of $185 you are still looking at ~$5000 for the pellets.
Time is more precious than gold if you know how to spend it .... but what do I know, I'm just a dumb farmer.~My Dad NRA LIFE MEMBER, Endowment Member
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Re: Cord Wood Vs Pellets
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A backup generator can keep everything going during extended power outages for us towneys!
ALSO we can have fires all summer some years but don’t you dare fire your wood stove when the borough says the air is too bad or we will fine you! Not worth the hassle. I live in town my mail man asked why I never have a fire going one day , he sees all the wood and he sees the chimney but never any smoke there is almost always a fire going , there is no smoke , some heat waves if you look careful. there was a fire going when he asked
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Re: Cord Wood Vs Pellets
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You would think a generator could take care of the power needs my boiler pumps don’t require a lot of power my furnace heats the house well just with the pumps running but if it’s really cold the fan is needed but my generator could run that also.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: Cord Wood Vs Pellets
[Re: uplandpointer]
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01/17/22 10:49 AM
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For starters you need electricity to make a pellet stove work. That's a deal breaker for me. They do make gravity feed ones nowadays, costly but they do make them So I guess I'm asking the wrong question. What I want to know is how many 50lb bags of hard wood pellets does it take to equal a cord of dry oak fire wood? Growing up we used 10 or 12 cords of wood a year. I'm trying to figure out how many bags of pellets to do the same. We average about 1 1/2. Bags a day so just do the math for how many days you need heat Some of the new pellet stoves put out double the heat as the older ones, mine is an older one but still keeps the house nice and warm, not as comforting as a wood stove more like an electric heater but still around 70 even during the subzero temps we had recently and my house is old and leaks like a sieve though I do plastic sheet over the windows every year it still is drafty
�Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.� ― Robert A. Heinlein
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Re: Cord Wood Vs Pellets
[Re: Sharon]
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Never did like pellets. As mentioned, when there is no power, you're sunk. That's what it was like for friends of mine who bought one when they first came out. They were thrilled that the pellets were not messy to deal with, like wood can be...but when the power went in winter , that changed their minds.
Nothing in the world like wood heat. One word generator!! Lots to consider beside the price. Storage ,handling , maintenance. They giving 2 ft of snow stack your 4 bags of pellets beside the pellet stove . Last for several days. Beats wading thru the snow to the wood pile when your "rick" gets low.
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Re: Cord Wood Vs Pellets
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For some strange reason I always loaded the wood now pellet room on the coldest day of the year, no matter how big the wood room is!
I love the smell of burning spruce---I love the sound of a spring time goose---I love the feel of 40 below---from my trapline I will never go!
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