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gun cleaning solvents test. pretty interesting #7462771
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Re: gun cleaning solvents test. pretty interesting [Re: danny clifton] #7462772
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He has some pretty good videos.

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Project Farm, is my go to for many product tests and reviews. Never considered Fluid film a lubricant, a protectant yes. Ballistol has an odor I don't like. For guns I use Ed's Red homemade solvent. And I save the Mobil 1 residue out of new containers when I change oil in my machines, to use as a lubricant.

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Re: gun cleaning solvents test. pretty interesting [Re: danny clifton] #7462832
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Re: gun cleaning solvents test. pretty interesting [Re: danny clifton] #7462839
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Balistol ..... all I use and all the family ever used for generations. From gun cleaning to disinfecting cuts to insect bites and seized bolts. 1001 uses and it never fails


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Re: gun cleaning solvents test. pretty interesting [Re: danny clifton] #7462855
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Re: gun cleaning solvents test. pretty interesting [Re: danny clifton] #7462883
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On the advice of a friend I bought some sweets 7.62 copper remover. Stuff smells like a 3 day old dirty diaper but it gets copper out. I follow the directions on the bottle. Unlike hoppes you dont need to let it soak over night. Though hoppes does a good job. This sweets brand is faster.


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I happened upon a couple recommendations for Free-All penetrating oil as a cleaning solvent. It has some solvent in it (don't ask me the name, it's a mouthful) that is used as a solvent for nitrocellulose. I'll soak a bore mop with it and slather the bore, let it soak, patch it out. I usually don't clean until accuracy falls off so my barrels can get pretty dirty.

Best thing I've found for cleaning the hard carbon out of the bore. It's like $8 or so for an 11 oz spray can at O'Reilly's or AutoZone.

If you have a nice wood stock I would take care using it. It may not be nice to it.

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Re: gun cleaning solvents test. pretty interesting [Re: danny clifton] #7462898
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
On the advice of a friend I bought some sweets 7.62 copper remover. Stuff smells like a 3 day old dirty diaper but it gets copper out. I follow the directions on the bottle. Unlike hoppes you dont need to let it soak over night. Though hoppes does a good job. This sweets brand is faster.


Just don't leave Sweets in the bore for too long. It's pretty harsh on steel, but by all the accounts I've read it will flat clean out the copper.

Mike


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Re: gun cleaning solvents test. pretty interesting [Re: danny clifton] #7462907
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I really like his videos

my go to currently is Hornady one shot as a cleaner and corrosion protection

Hoppes elite foam for copper

in semi autos rifles I will put brake free clp on the BCG especailly on the gas rings area

my 10/22s only see Hornady One shot dry lube and cleaner I kept finding the other oils collected the soot and causing issues

this was the test that got me to try the Oneshot Dry lube and cleaner 46 gun oil product test

the product also cuts my time cleaning 22s considerably which isn't a big deal when your cleaning 1 but when you do a dozen after a shoot it gets time consuming.

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Re: gun cleaning solvents test. pretty interesting [Re: danny clifton] #7462911
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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
Originally Posted by danny clifton
On the advice of a friend I bought some sweets 7.62 copper remover. Stuff smells like a 3 day old dirty diaper but it gets copper out. I follow the directions on the bottle. Unlike hoppes you dont need to let it soak over night. Though hoppes does a good job. This sweets brand is faster.


Just don't leave Sweets in the bore for too long. It's pretty harsh on steel, but by all the accounts I've read it will flat clean out the copper.

Mike


Barnes CR-10 also really gets the copper out, but wow does it burn the nose , and do not leave it in the barrel , flush it and oil it and be careful that you got the bolt recess on bolt action rifles , that stuff is a good reason to have a https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1014920517 to keep the stuff only were you want it and protect the rest of your gun

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Re: gun cleaning solvents test. pretty interesting [Re: Yukon John] #7462917
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I thought Hoppes #9 was aftershave, or cologne!


If the women put a dab behind their ears they wouldn't stand a chance!


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Re: gun cleaning solvents test. pretty interesting [Re: danny clifton] #7462921
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You said it Pete. I bought a Pro Shot bore guide for cleaning. It has interchangeable inserts for 22 and 30 caliber... Only problem was after I bought it I had to get a longer cleaning rod. My 300 WM has a 26" barrel and with the brake it's about 28". With the bore guide in the chamber I was over the length of my previous rod. Wound up buying a one piece Tipton carbon fiber rod... Should've bought one years ago.

I despise cleaning guns so anything that makes it faster, easier, and more efficient is all right in my book.

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The way I understand it is the sweets itself wont harm the steel but the ammonia in it is hydroscopic. If you dont clean it out good and oil your firearm humidity will cause corrosion as it bonds with the moisture.

You dont need to worry about copper to much IMO. When I can see copper in the rifling at the muzzle is when I want to get it out. When you can see it, its causing pressure disparity and that means bigger groups.


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Anybody tried those bore snakes? I bought a couple but haven't even opened the package.


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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Anybody tried those bore snakes? I bought a couple but haven't even opened the package.


I haven't. I've heard both praise and criticism of them. So choose your camp I guess.

Mike


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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Anybody tried those bore snakes? I bought a couple but haven't even opened the package.

They work better, to me, on guns where you can go straight through the breech without interfence

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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Anybody tried those bore snakes? I bought a couple but haven't even opened the package.


love the bore snakes for 22lr

your never going to get copper out with a bore snake it isn't what they are for , but to spray some hornady one shot and run the bore snake in a 22lr a few times it cleans the chamber and the barrel well enough that if you do that every 500 or so rounds you can go a long time before needing a more though cleaning.

also nice for pistols I and shotguns

it is not a replacement for deep cleaning but it can be good maintenance and get your lube/corrosion protection down the barrel for protection as well as get the carbon out

if you shoot 20 rounds a year you can go a long time on a copper cleaning in your deer rifle maybe once a decade at most , but getting a corrosion protection down the barrel and the bit of carbon out as well as getting the chamber clean. at the end of the season , also nice if you were out in the rain.

make sure to pull strait and re-grab every foot or so

my 9mm pistol rounds are mostly hi-tech or powder coated probably close to 10-1 vs copper so I don't have copper to clean in the 9mms so it is just carbon a bore snake every 500-1000 rounds seems to do fine for me. I hose the glocks out every 2-3K with the one shot and everything just keeps running.

so there are uses for them , they are not a replacement for a good rod and jag but they are a very portable solution to keep in your range bag or truck.

guns like a 10/22 where you might start having issues mid day at an Appleseed shoot you can run one in prep if you let the RO know what your going to do or they can help you run it and then you have a clean chamber again and might have you running the rest of the day
normally the round count is only around 250 a day for an Appleseed , depending on ammo and the lube you use that can be enough to have issues. humidity can also play a part.

no good way to quickly pull the bolt and run a rod on a 10/22, we keep a rod around for stuck cases and cartridges but the snake gets the crud down and out the muzzle without pushing any back into the action

I also keep a brass rod in my pistol range bag , about 8 inches of brass round stock as a squib rod , I haven't needed it for myself since I put it in my bag but it has been used a couple times for other people at shoots.
It is in there because I had a round that had a bulged case get stuck in the chamber it wouldn't fully go into battery but I also could not get it out i had to disassemble the slide and bring the barrel home separate from the gun. a squib rod would have had us back in shooting in a couple minutes.
if you can quickly fix equipment failure you can re-shoot a stage in some cases or at least not scratch.

we also usually have a spare gun also.

Saturday we were shooting with a guy who had a PCC carbine failure right out of the buzzer on the first stage , yesterday at a USPSA shoot , he ended up running to the truck to get his spare gun for the next stages we shot 6 stages.

there were a bunch of failures yesterday I would guess most ammo but some mags saw a Sig MPX with feed issues , a CZ shadow , a Sig 320 and a M&P2.0 all have issues as well as a couple Open guns in other squads that I am not sure what model they were.

when your running them hard and with current ammo unavailability you might have ammo that isn't your favorite brand , eventually you end up with a bad mag if you run them long enough. it happens.
especially when you get high round counts


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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
Originally Posted by danny clifton
On the advice of a friend I bought some sweets 7.62 copper remover. Stuff smells like a 3 day old dirty diaper but it gets copper out. I follow the directions on the bottle. Unlike hoppes you dont need to let it soak over night. Though hoppes does a good job. This sweets brand is faster.


Just don't leave Sweets in the bore for too long. It's pretty harsh on steel, but by all the accounts I've read it will flat clean out the copper.

Mike

I won't get any copper in my barrel, I treated my barrel with moly-fusion, I only get powder fouling

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