Re: FHA
[Re: NonPCfed]
#7322906
08/05/21 11:40 PM
08/05/21 11:40 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 5,081 montana
red mt
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 5,081
montana
|
If you want prices to get better, STOP SENDING THE MARKET ITEMS THEY DONT WANT!!
The fur market has told us all, no, screamed at us, that they have no interest in most coon and beaver. Stop shoving unwanted pelts into the market. Trap the pelts that are worth something, and if you are trapping worthless fur for fun or damage control, either tan and use them yourself, find a secondary market, or pitch them in the ditch.
I know I’m talking to a wall here, but if we all did that for a couple seasons you’d see higher prices than you ever dreamed were possible. Anyone sending coon into this market is just kicking the market while it’s down. You are so wise for your years. Dam, I wish I was the Dai Lama at 31 (or is it 32 now?). How did your bcats do, didn't you sell them at one of the western "state" markets? Does your logic hold for for western cats, if you stop sending in and selling at $200-300, maybe they'll go back to $600 to a grand when the supply dries up...? I didn't trap cats last year. But 300 is about my average for our type cats on good years
Kenneth schoening
|
|
|
Re: FHA
[Re: Northof50]
#7323144
08/06/21 11:10 AM
08/06/21 11:10 AM
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,635 Pottawatamie co. IA
LLtrapper
"The Coon Combine"
|
"The Coon Combine"
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,635
Pottawatamie co. IA
|
red mt just send me 100 bucks and I will tell you how to do it. That can be USD or loonies.
seems that they are starting at the low end of fur like squirrels and telling guys |" don't send in" they paid more than muskrats which paid more than racoon etc-etc prices are rising from the bottom going up the chain of size of pelts Well I don't see much change in wild mink prices so that blows that theory. lol, LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
|
|
|
Re: FHA
[Re: wissmiss]
#7323151
08/06/21 11:20 AM
08/06/21 11:20 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,960 Northern Nevada
Bob
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,960
Northern Nevada
|
Big difference between a $3 coon and a $300 cat. At $300 I can come out ahead, can you do that on $3 coon? You can’t even justify the time it takes to skin one for that price. It’s apples to oranges. But yes, the logic still holds. If buyers need cats, and there are very few cats, they will compete harder for them and drive up the price. Right now there are few buyers needing coon and a pipeline shoved full and it keeps getting more heaped on top. There’s no competition for them, so they can pretty much pay whatever they want.
And, if you’d been paying attention, I only had one cat to sell this year. I spent my time and effort trapping coyotes….because that’s what the market wants
"I have two guns, one for each of ya."
|
|
|
Re: FHA
[Re: wissmiss]
#7323156
08/06/21 11:29 AM
08/06/21 11:29 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 11,204 Armpit, ak
Dirt
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 11,204
Armpit, ak
|
Wild mink and beaver have never reached boom prices in the last 30 years. That trend will continue. I suspect.
Who is John Galt?
|
|
|
Re: FHA
[Re: wissmiss]
#7323169
08/06/21 11:41 AM
08/06/21 11:41 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,221 Oregon
beaverpeeler
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,221
Oregon
|
I have always felt like I needed to see beaver averages in the mid 20's (at a minimum) to be worthwhile going after. The last couple of years castor is averaging between $15-$19 per beaver for me so selling a few carcasses, oil sacs and heads plus maybe $8-10 for the pelts gets me where I need to be.
I will add, if I didn't make a profit trapping I wouldn't be out there.
Last edited by beaverpeeler; 08/06/21 12:04 PM.
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
|
|
|
Re: FHA
[Re: wissmiss]
#7323215
08/06/21 01:04 PM
08/06/21 01:04 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 6,341 se South Dakota
NonPCfed
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 6,341
se South Dakota
|
Big difference between a $3 coon and a $300 cat. At $300 I can come out ahead, can you do that on $3 coon? You can’t even justify the time it takes to skin one for that price. It’s apples to oranges. But yes, the logic still holds. If buyers need cats, and there are very few cats, they will compete harder for them and drive up the price. Right now there are few buyers needing coon and a pipeline shoved full and it keeps getting more heaped on top. There’s no competition for them, so they can pretty much pay whatever they want. Where do you see the pipeline "shoved full" with coon, Bob?? FHA offered what, less than a 100,000 at this sale, most were leftovers from the April sale. During good years in the past, over a million coon were sold between NAFA and FHA so I don't see where your "heaped to the top" has any reality except it sounds cool when you say it. And no, I wouldn't trap coon for $3, certainly not finishing them, but I have sold very few coon at $3. Maybe that paradigm has truly changed, we'll see with more data over time. I'm a low volume guy with limited time to trap, yotes are far fewer around peri-urban areas than coon, and people have problems with coons. If you read some of my posts, the coons I sent to FHA (first time to them) this spring were almost all donated to me so It was something to do as listened to the news or music in my garage. How much fuel did you burn up bouncing around the Nevada shrub lands versus what you got for your yotes?? Did it pay fast-food wages when you penciled everything out in the end...? You did it for as much fun as you did it for for coin...
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground". Genesis 1:26
|
|
|
Re: FHA
[Re: beaverpeeler]
#7323218
08/06/21 01:12 PM
08/06/21 01:12 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,967 new york
mike mason
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,967
new york
|
I have always felt like I needed to see beaver averages in the mid 20's (at a minimum) to be worthwhile going after. The last couple of years castor is averaging between $15-$19 per beaver for me so selling a few carcasses, oil sacs and heads plus maybe $8-10 for the pelts gets me where I need to be.
I will add, if I didn't make a profit trapping I wouldn't be out there. That is where I am at with beaver......skulls, meat, oil sacs, castor, fur....about $30 average.
|
|
|
Re: FHA
[Re: mike mason]
#7323241
08/06/21 02:08 PM
08/06/21 02:08 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,635 Pottawatamie co. IA
LLtrapper
"The Coon Combine"
|
"The Coon Combine"
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,635
Pottawatamie co. IA
|
I have always felt like I needed to see beaver averages in the mid 20's (at a minimum) to be worthwhile going after. The last couple of years castor is averaging between $15-$19 per beaver for me so selling a few carcasses, oil sacs and heads plus maybe $8-10 for the pelts gets me where I need to be.
I will add, if I didn't make a profit trapping I wouldn't be out there. That is where I am at with beaver......skulls, meat, oil sacs, castor, fur....about $30 average. I average 125.00 per beaver and get paid as soon as the job is done. Also sell the castor, oil sacs and pelts when in season. Skulls too. Very few trapping beaver around here. They call when they need them gone. Way more than I want. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
|
|
|
Re: FHA
[Re: red mt]
#7462433
01/16/22 12:15 PM
01/16/22 12:15 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 8,212 Manitoba
Northof50
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 8,212
Manitoba
|
If you want prices to get better, STOP SENDING THE MARKET ITEMS THEY DONT WANT!!
The fur market has told us all, no, screamed at us, that they have no interest in most coon and beaver. Stop shoving unwanted pelts into the market. Trap the pelts that are worth something, and if you are trapping worthless fur for fun or damage control, either tan and use them yourself, find a secondary market, or pitch them in the ditch.
I know I’m talking to a wall here, but if we all did that for a couple seasons you’d see higher prices than you ever dreamed were possible. Anyone sending coon into this market is just kicking the market while it’s down. Where is the like button Is that the same as the sledge hammer they use at the circus to ring the bell.
|
|
|
Re: FHA
[Re: scootermac]
#7462843
01/16/22 06:59 PM
01/16/22 06:59 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 12,383 South Ga - Almost Florida
Swamp Wolf
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 12,383
South Ga - Almost Florida
|
I got $70 Canadian for a nice male mink back in 2013 at NAFA. A few things missing in this now^^^^^ $70 for a wild mink...2013....and NAFA.
Thank God For Your Blessings! Never Half-Arse Anything!
Resource Protection Service
|
|
|
|
|