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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: seniortrap] #7464039
01/17/22 09:12 PM
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Northern Maine
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Originally Posted by seniortrap
Then you wouldn't need much ground. If your near any Federal or State land.

Exactly


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Providence Farm] #7464055
01/17/22 09:22 PM
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Hmmmm


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Providence Farm] #7464060
01/17/22 09:25 PM
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Land bordering public is good If it's Remote otherwise the public can be a problem


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: 330-Trapper] #7464079
01/17/22 09:34 PM
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Northern Maine
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Land bordering public is good If it's Remote otherwise the public can be a problem

I always get off the beaten path.Did that alot in Virginia.Did alot of hiking getting miles away from any roads.Surprising how even using a boat a person can get away from people also.Alot of people are lazy.


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Providence Farm] #7464145
01/17/22 10:33 PM
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South Dakoata looks to have a ton of jobs with a quick search. The cold would be a hard sale for the wife but maybe a vacation is in order to look around.


Cold is relevant. The I-90 corridor is warmer in the winter than the northeast quadrant of the state. Some of the secondary "cities" are quite nice of size of communities and even smaller places in the say 3,000 people range (such as Chamberlain) are pretty decent places. Move down by Avon and have Bison88 teach your kids, not a bad deal grin Just have to get over having trees in sight in much of the rural areas, although there are more trees here now than in 1890. Just saying...


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: BuckMink] #7464165
01/17/22 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckMink


I like Ohio, southern Ohio, even an hour or two south of Akron and it's not hard to get away from people.



Loot at a map of the USA. Ohio is not a western state. In fact it is east of Indiana. Ohio is full. Too many people are already here. Poor hunting, fishing, and trapping. No land access. Hunting is all leased. Air pollution is choking. Can’t drink the water. Crime is worse than in Chicago. The roads are a series of potholes. The roads are so crowded that no driver’s licenses are being renewed. Utilities are unreliable and unaffordable. A dilapidated shack on a small lot starts at $250,000. Statewide there is high danger of being attacked by feral cats. The best jobs require multiple college degrees and pay $5 per hour with no benefits. All of the inmates have been released from the jails and prisons. Ohio has the highest rate of coronavirus with many people getting multiple variants. Some infected people have died multiple times.


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Providence Farm] #7464176
01/17/22 11:06 PM
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TN/OH
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I disagree on the deer hunting Willy, it's pretty dang good. Lol

Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Providence Farm] #7464191
01/17/22 11:19 PM
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when your in the west dont say camp unless your camping. you will confuse the locals


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Providence Farm] #7464276
01/18/22 12:14 AM
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Look at colorado, they are banning cat trapping and I believe introducing wolves....the libs are there, Idaho and other states near it will be following that way soon enough...I say Kansas or Oklahoma....maybe even Arkansas.


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Providence Farm] #7464283
01/18/22 12:22 AM
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Western SD and the Black Hills is about at capacity. Has gotten near impossible to draw any big game tags.


Western SD Fur Harvesters, SDTA, NTA, FTA and life member of NRA. Cancer survivor (7 years) and still fighting it.
Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Providence Farm] #7464314
01/18/22 12:56 AM
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Wow, willy I would totally disagree with that statement on every aspect or at least I would never live in the area you are living. I know Ohio isn't west but why not southern states or Appalachian area. Like rm trapper said, we got some big corn fed brutes of a deer but each to their own. The crime rate isn't even close to Chicago.. I'm pretty darn happy where I'm at in Ohio but each to their own. We don't have elk, but we got fantastic steelhead fishing.

Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Providence Farm] #7464321
01/18/22 01:01 AM
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When you think about buying a chunk of land and developing it, you're going to be shocked, in most places, exactly how much that is today. I bought 20 acres in Idaho 4 years ago, $99,900, before things started to get silly. No neighbors within 3/4 of a mile. So nice. Ok, $18,500 to put the driveway in. $55,300 to bring power in. Septic system, $10,400. Built a nice shop for $39,900. Just drilled my well in Sept. The waiting list on a drilling rig is right at 2 years out. Because of the pandemic and the shortage of 6 inch steel casing, it went from $22 per foot to $36 per foot in the past 10 months. Ended up 720 feet down. Did end up with 30+ gpm. Cost was $55,500 for the drilling and $12,500 for the pump. $68,000 for a glass of water. I haven't even put in the foundation or the house. Just a little reality check for some of you folks. Oh yea 3.5 years, me and the wife are still living in a 16X24 foot cabin. 3 years without power or running water. Hopefully the new house will be delivered by the middle of May. I can't believe she hasn't left me yet. smile

Last edited by Machias; 01/18/22 01:03 AM.

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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Machias] #7464335
01/18/22 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Machias
When you think about buying a chunk of land and developing it, you're going to be shocked, in most places, exactly how much that is today. I bought 20 acres in Idaho 4 years ago, $99,900, before things started to get silly. No neighbors within 3/4 of a mile. So nice. Ok, $18,500 to put the driveway in. $55,300 to bring power in. Septic system, $10,400. Built a nice shop for $39,900. Just drilled my well in Sept. The waiting list on a drilling rig is right at 2 years out. Because of the pandemic and the shortage of 6 inch steel casing, it went from $22 per foot to $36 per foot in the past 10 months. Ended up 720 feet down. Did end up with 30+ gpm. Cost was $55,500 for the drilling and $12,500 for the pump. $68,000 for a glass of water. I haven't even put in the foundation or the house. Just a little reality check for some of you folks. Oh yea 3.5 years, me and the wife are still living in a 16X24 foot cabin. 3 years without power or running water. Hopefully the new house will be delivered by the middle of May. I can't believe she hasn't left me yet. smile


I think i would have looked into solar hard before spending 55k on electric. Maybe you did and its not good at your location? I am glad i got my water line project done before thing went up. I had a meter put in i rented a track hoe
and ran 1200' of water line and put in 4 hydrants. Cant say the same about the new septic im waiting on. Its gone up and no telling how much by the time they can get in to put it in. Thing are crazy high except my pay check.

Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Machias] #7464348
01/18/22 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Machias
When you think about buying a chunk of land and developing it, you're going to be shocked, in most places, exactly how much that is today. I bought 20 acres in Idaho 4 years ago, $99,900, before things started to get silly. No neighbors within 3/4 of a mile. So nice. Ok, $18,500 to put the driveway in. $55,300 to bring power in. Septic system, $10,400. Built a nice shop for $39,900. Just drilled my well in Sept. The waiting list on a drilling rig is right at 2 years out. Because of the pandemic and the shortage of 6 inch steel casing, it went from $22 per foot to $36 per foot in the past 10 months. Ended up 720 feet down. Did end up with 30+ gpm. Cost was $55,500 for the drilling and $12,500 for the pump. $68,000 for a glass of water. I haven't even put in the foundation or the house. Just a little reality check for some of you folks. Oh yea 3.5 years, me and the wife are still living in a 16X24 foot cabin. 3 years without power or running water. Hopefully the new house will be delivered by the middle of May. I can't believe she hasn't left me yet. smile

You forgot to mention how much that 20 acres would cost now lol


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Providence Farm] #7464359
01/18/22 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by Machias
When you think about buying a chunk of land and developing it, you're going to be shocked, in most places, exactly how much that is today. I bought 20 acres in Idaho 4 years ago, $99,900, before things started to get silly. No neighbors within 3/4 of a mile. So nice. Ok, $18,500 to put the driveway in. $55,300 to bring power in. Septic system, $10,400. Built a nice shop for $39,900. Just drilled my well in Sept. The waiting list on a drilling rig is right at 2 years out. Because of the pandemic and the shortage of 6 inch steel casing, it went from $22 per foot to $36 per foot in the past 10 months. Ended up 720 feet down. Did end up with 30+ gpm. Cost was $55,500 for the drilling and $12,500 for the pump. $68,000 for a glass of water. I haven't even put in the foundation or the house. Just a little reality check for some of you folks. Oh yea 3.5 years, me and the wife are still living in a 16X24 foot cabin. 3 years without power or running water. Hopefully the new house will be delivered by the middle of May. I can't believe she hasn't left me yet. smile


I think i would have looked into solar hard before spending 55k on electric. Maybe you did and its not good at your location? I am glad i got my water line project done before thing went up. I had a meter put in i rented a track hoe
and ran 1200' of water line and put in 4 hydrants. Cant say the same about the new septic im waiting on. Its gone up and no telling how much by the time they can get in to put it in. Thing are crazy high except my pay check.


Oh that was the original plan, 16K. However, you cannot finance a home construction loan off the grid. We couldn't find a bank that would touch it. Also originally planned on building a cordwood house, but could not find an engineer who would do a set of stamped engineered plans.


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: sneaky] #7464360
01/18/22 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by sneaky
Originally Posted by Machias
When you think about buying a chunk of land and developing it, you're going to be shocked, in most places, exactly how much that is today. I bought 20 acres in Idaho 4 years ago, $99,900, before things started to get silly. No neighbors within 3/4 of a mile. So nice. Ok, $18,500 to put the driveway in. $55,300 to bring power in. Septic system, $10,400. Built a nice shop for $39,900. Just drilled my well in Sept. The waiting list on a drilling rig is right at 2 years out. Because of the pandemic and the shortage of 6 inch steel casing, it went from $22 per foot to $36 per foot in the past 10 months. Ended up 720 feet down. Did end up with 30+ gpm. Cost was $55,500 for the drilling and $12,500 for the pump. $68,000 for a glass of water. I haven't even put in the foundation or the house. Just a little reality check for some of you folks. Oh yea 3.5 years, me and the wife are still living in a 16X24 foot cabin. 3 years without power or running water. Hopefully the new house will be delivered by the middle of May. I can't believe she hasn't left me yet. smile

You forgot to mention how much that 20 acres would cost now lol


Yep a little bit more.

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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Providence Farm] #7464507
01/18/22 09:37 AM
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We moved from NY 14 years ago, built an underground house, was expensive and hard to find people to work. I have no idea how much to sell this for to be able to build another one. New Mexico is a wonderful place so was New York until the Govt. made it so I couldn't abide all their nonsense. We are too old to move so we'll stay and fight the Commies in Sante Fe!

Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Providence Farm] #7464549
01/18/22 10:32 AM
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Seems recently Idaho is the number 1 destination for relocating. Median house costs in Boise and vicinity is now well over half a million bucks; I suspect close to the same around Coeur d'Alene and many other places throughout the state. Most immigrants are Californians, Oregonians, or Washingtonians, along with East Coasters. The land and housing prices are outrageous. More counties turning blue every voting session. I agree, it was once my idea of a shangri-la but I'm afraid that is not the case any more. The number of people has sky-rocketed, but I'm too old to look elsewhere. Please don't come here.

Jack


Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Providence Farm] #7464550
01/18/22 10:36 AM
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Northern Indiana is a lot different than Southern Indiana, but land is getting crazy expensive just like everything else. I like Indiana, cheaper to visit other places and I am to old to move and start over.


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Larry Bowden] #7464553
01/18/22 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry Bowden
Western SD and the Black Hills is about at capacity. Has gotten near impossible to draw any big game tags.



But but but….its progress…

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