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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Gulo] #7464574
01/18/22 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Gulo
Seems recently Idaho is the number 1 destination for relocating. Median house costs in Boise and vicinity is now well over half a million bucks; I suspect close to the same around Coeur d'Alene and many other places throughout the state. Most immigrants are Californians, Oregonians, or Washingtonians, along with East Coasters. The land and housing prices are outrageous. More counties turning blue every voting session. I agree, it was once my idea of a shangri-la but I'm afraid that is not the case any more. The number of people has sky-rocketed, but I'm too old to look elsewhere. Please don't come here.

Jack



Sir you must be mistaken. What im hearing is the GOOD ones are moving to the western states and not bringing their blueness with them! Ya right. Ive only seen your state in magazines and on tv and its beautiful. Im sorry outsiders are wrecking it.

Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Machias] #7464591
01/18/22 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Machias
When you think about buying a chunk of land and developing it, you're going to be shocked, in most places, exactly how much that is today. I bought 20 acres in Idaho 4 years ago, $99,900, before things started to get silly. No neighbors within 3/4 of a mile. So nice. Ok, $18,500 to put the driveway in. $55,300 to bring power in. Septic system, $10,400. Built a nice shop for $39,900. Just drilled my well in Sept. The waiting list on a drilling rig is right at 2 years out. Because of the pandemic and the shortage of 6 inch steel casing, it went from $22 per foot to $36 per foot in the past 10 months. Ended up 720 feet down. Did end up with 30+ gpm. Cost was $55,500 for the drilling and $12,500 for the pump. $68,000 for a glass of water. I haven't even put in the foundation or the house. Just a little reality check for some of you folks. Oh yea 3.5 years, me and the wife are still living in a 16X24 foot cabin. 3 years without power or running water. Hopefully the new house will be delivered by the middle of May. I can't believe she hasn't left me yet. smile

You got a bargain on the raw land.


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: T-Rex] #7464605
01/18/22 11:21 AM
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How about Minneapolis?

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NATO announced today they will be sending Will Smith to deal with Vladimir Putin.
Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Willy Firewood] #7464609
01/18/22 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Willy Firewood
Originally Posted by BuckMink


I like Ohio, southern Ohio, even an hour or two south of Akron and it's not hard to get away from people.



Loot at a map of the USA. Ohio is not a western state. In fact it is east of Indiana. Ohio is full. Too many people are already here. Poor hunting, fishing, and trapping. No land access. Hunting is all leased. Air pollution is choking. Canít drink the water. Crime is worse than in Chicago. The roads are a series of potholes. The roads are so crowded that no driverís licenses are being renewed. Utilities are unreliable and unaffordable. A dilapidated shack on a small lot starts at $250,000. Statewide there is high danger of being attacked by feral cats. The best jobs require multiple college degrees and pay $5 per hour with no benefits. All of the inmates have been released from the jails and prisons. Ohio has the highest rate of coronavirus with many people getting multiple variants. Some infected people have died multiple times.

How do you die multiple times?


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Willy Firewood] #7464612
01/18/22 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Willy Firewood
Originally Posted by BuckMink


I like Ohio, southern Ohio, even an hour or two south of Akron and it's not hard to get away from people.



Loot at a map of the USA. Ohio is not a western state. In fact it is east of Indiana. Ohio is full. Too many people are already here. Poor hunting, fishing, and trapping. No land access. Hunting is all leased. Air pollution is choking. Canít drink the water. Crime is worse than in Chicago. The roads are a series of potholes. The roads are so crowded that no driverís licenses are being renewed. Utilities are unreliable and unaffordable. A dilapidated shack on a small lot starts at $250,000. Statewide there is high danger of being attacked by feral cats. The best jobs require multiple college degrees and pay $5 per hour with no benefits. All of the inmates have been released from the jails and prisons. Ohio has the highest rate of coronavirus with many people getting multiple variants. Some infected people have died multiple times.


That was hilarious thanks made my day.

Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Willy Firewood] #7464613
01/18/22 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Willy Firewood
Originally Posted by BuckMink


I like Ohio, southern Ohio, even an hour or two south of Akron and it's not hard to get away from people.



Loot at a map of the USA. Ohio is not a western state. In fact it is east of Indiana. Ohio is full. Too many people are already here. Poor hunting, fishing, and trapping. No land access. Hunting is all leased. Air pollution is choking. Canít drink the water. Crime is worse than in Chicago. The roads are a series of potholes. The roads are so crowded that no driverís licenses are being renewed. Utilities are unreliable and unaffordable. A dilapidated shack on a small lot starts at $250,000. Statewide there is high danger of being attacked by feral cats. The best jobs require multiple college degrees and pay $5 per hour with no benefits. All of the inmates have been released from the jails and prisons. Ohio has the highest rate of coronavirus with many people getting multiple variants. Some infected people have died multiple times.

I have been to Ohio precovid and I didn't notice it being this bad. At least I don't live in Ohio.


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Providence Farm] #7464614
01/18/22 11:27 AM
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Some friends of ours retired and moved to WY. I think part of the move for them was they were sick of MN and the people running it.


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Providence Farm] #7464671
01/18/22 12:19 PM
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Idaho is NOT turning Blue, that is a defeatist mentality.

2019 registered voters:
Constitutionalist 3,121
Democrats 108,485
Libertarian 7,967
Republicans 435,095

2020 registered voters:
Constitutionalist 3,277
Democrats 112,411
Libertarian 8416
Republicans 439,906


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Providence Farm] #7464690
01/18/22 12:50 PM
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Definitely Idaho. I know people from Alaska that moved to Idaho because it is so much better. smile


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Dirt] #7464697
01/18/22 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Definitely Idaho. I know people from Alaska that moved to Idaho because it is so much better. smile



laugh

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Poetic Injustice:Ramblings from Alaska
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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Machias] #7464707
01/18/22 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Machias
Idaho is NOT turning Blue, that is a defeatist mentality.

2019 registered voters:
Constitutionalist 3,121
Democrats 108,485
Libertarian 7,967
Republicans 435,095

2020 registered voters:
Constitutionalist 3,277
Democrats 112,411
Libertarian 8416
Republicans 439,906


Fred, Look a bit farther back than 2019. I started my time in Idaho in 1955. I didn't take the time to sleuth out the data, but if memory serves me correct, back then pretty much all 44 counties were decidedly right-leaning. Now look at Blaine County (Sun Valley), Latah County (University of Idaho), and even Teton County. Won't be long before you see a color shift in Ada, Canyon, Kootenai, and a few others. It's not a defeatist mentality, just my own little reality mentality. I guess I just really don't appreciate change and progress.

Too, Fred, to show my complete ignorance, are there not Independents or Unspecified in Idaho?


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The Last Hunt
Wild Life:The Evolution and Misadventures of a Naturalist
Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Providence Farm] #7464717
01/18/22 01:16 PM
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I work in Boise every week, the tide has changed in Ada and Canyon counties just in the past 6 or 7 years. Lots of my customers are transplants. That Boise metro area currently holds 40% of all of Idaho's population. Once enough of them move in, so goes Boise, so goes Idaho. It's simple math. CDA is as bad, Twin Falls is getting there, as well as Idaho Falls and Pocatello because Boise real estate priced them out of there. Sun Valley is ground zero for not only liberals, but several prominent anti- trapping organizations.


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: BuckMink] #7464725
01/18/22 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckMink
Wow, willy I would totally disagree with that statement on every aspect or at least I would never live in the area you are living. I know Ohio isn't west but why not southern states or Appalachian area. Like rm trapper said, we got some big corn fed brutes of a deer but each to their own. The crime rate isn't even close to Chicago.. I'm pretty darn happy where I'm at in Ohio but each to their own. We don't have elk, but we got fantastic steelhead fishing.

Yes, but I don't think you are supposed to eat them. That says something I think. PCB's, mercury, etc..


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Gulo] #7464726
01/18/22 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Gulo
Originally Posted by Machias
Idaho is NOT turning Blue, that is a defeatist mentality.

2019 registered voters:
Constitutionalist 3,121
Democrats 108,485
Libertarian 7,967
Republicans 435,095

2020 registered voters:
Constitutionalist 3,277
Democrats 112,411
Libertarian 8416
Republicans 439,906


Fred, Look a bit farther back than 2019. I started my time in Idaho in 1955. I didn't take the time to sleuth out the data, but if memory serves me correct, back then pretty much all 44 counties were decidedly right-leaning. Now look at Blaine County (Sun Valley), Latah County (University of Idaho), and even Teton County. Won't be long before you see a color shift in Ada, Canyon, Kootenai, and a few others. It's not a defeatist mentality, just my own little reality mentality. I guess I just really don't appreciate change and progress.

Too, Fred, to show my complete ignorance, are there not Independents or Unspecified in Idaho?



Look at the rate of increase in D vs R

D = 3.7 % increase in one year . R = 0.9 % in one year


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Providence Farm] #7464739
01/18/22 01:33 PM
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https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/l...277-c3110644-b43c-44af-9c06-af0f1ad44c12

From the article:

No, Idaho's population growth is not turning the state's politics more liberal or blue.

Between data on registered voters and election results, the GOP's majority is growing at a much faster rate than the Idaho Democratic Party and Republicans are winning elections by larger margins now than they did years ago.

It is important to note that the Idaho GOP has a closed primary system where only voters registered with the party can vote in their primaries. This does invite independent or liberal voters to register as Republican so they can participate in the GOP primaries.

In Nov. 2013, 38.2% of registered voters identified as Republican, while registered Democrats made up 7.6% of voters.

Almost six years later, Republicans now have 50.8% of total registered voters in Idaho, an increase of 12.6%. The number of registered Democrats this year is now at 12.7%, up by 5.1% from 2013.

The number of registered Republicans in Idaho has grown by over 206,000 in the last six years and there are only about 52,000 more registered Democrats in Idaho.

These changes show that the state's population growth is only leading to an increasingly Republican-leaning Idaho.

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When I say defeatist mentality, I'm talking about what I seen while living in WA State. Constantly I heard oh King county rules the state. Yet 3/4 of the Republicans in the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) state did not vote, because they thought, what is the point, King county dictates what is going to happen for the rest of the state. BS, get off your (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) and vote. I just don't want to see that mentality taking hold in this state. I am hearing it more and more, the state is turning blue all is lost. BS, get out and vote!


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: run] #7464757
01/18/22 01:49 PM
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[/quote]How do you die multiple times?[/quote]

Dunno but I do know what happens if ya get scared half to death twice..........


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Providence Farm] #7464765
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Great post Willy. I, like Bernie, thought it was hilarious!


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Re: What western state and where to look for moving to [Re: Providence Farm] #7464768
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You can hold whatever opinion you want, but it's extremely easy to see with our own eyes that those "statistics" you keep quoting are nonsense. There's lies, dang lies, and statistics. We're not burying our heads in the sand, but we're also not discounting the HUGE gaps in your numbers that are the independent voters who vote either way. It will not be long before the Treasure Valley controls state politics, that's just a simple fact because of their population base. Biden lost in Ada county by less than 4 points, and got 46.4% of the vote. They already have a liberal mayor in place in Boise. You've got blinders on if you don't see change coming.


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